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In-reply-to » i got a shelf for all my cassette tapes! from a lovely person on facebook marketplace :] i don't think they produce these anymore, i think i got a good deal Media

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz That’s cool. Also, looks like a fun woodworking project in case you exceed the hundred slots. :-) The plywood lap joints might be quite repetetive, but gang cutting them with a story stick or some other fixture shouldn’t be too terrible.

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In-reply-to » Sometimes things go wrong when buying CDs second-hand. I bought an album quite cheap – but as it turned out, they only checked the cover, not the content, so I got something else instead which is actually much more expensive. 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Their gold teeth collection? ;-)

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What do you think I just learned about in this awesome Computerphile video with Matt Godbolt called ā€œSubroutines in Low Level Codeā€? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1su3lAh-k4o

Here’s the plot twist, the phrase ā€œtill the cows come homeā€. Hahaha, I never heard this before, but I love it! It’s always interesting to me to hear English sayings. Sometimes we have the same in German, sometimes – like in this case – entirely different ones. It’s fascinating that even though one hasn’t come across proverbs, it’s typically still clear from the context what’s meant.

Yep, some unexpected language stuff. ;-)

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In-reply-to » @lyse Nice! Next up: Passing file descriptors over Unix sockets. 😃

Thanks, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! That seems to be much easier. It’s already implemented in the Python docs as examples of recvmsg(…) and sendmsg(…):

I looked at them sooo many times in order to figure out why my SCM_CREDENTIALS sending code didn’t work. :-D

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In-reply-to » @kat I've almost fixed this btw šŸ¤— Just testing it thoroughly and polihsing the code. In case you're curious, I do this style of development called "Observability Driven Development" (ODD) whereby I make observations of the system via metrics and internal observations and adjust the system's overall behavior to the desired outcome šŸ˜…

@prologic@twtxt.net To clarify, from my observations on how the system behaves, it feels like that. This doesn’t make it any better, I know. Sorry mate! I never claimed that testing is always easy, but in my experience it sure does help cutting down regressions. But to each their own, no worries. The diagram is all Greek to me. Anyway.

@bender@twtxt.net True.

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In-reply-to » @kat I've almost fixed this btw šŸ¤— Just testing it thoroughly and polihsing the code. In case you're curious, I do this style of development called "Observability Driven Development" (ODD) whereby I make observations of the system via metrics and internal observations and adjust the system's overall behavior to the desired outcome šŸ˜…

@prologic@twtxt.net ODD, lol. I don’t wanna be rude, but this sounds more like Code And Fix.

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We just split about one and a half cubic meters of fire wood at our scout yard. And even more chainsaw action to cut the logs in smaller chunks. I’m bloody tired now. But it was really great fun swinging the axe. I will sleep like a rock tonight.

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We went on a 14Ā kilometers long hike in the heat, only a few spots were in the shade, most of our trip was in the open fields with the sun beating down on us. We reapplied the sun blocker after about two hours or so. All in all it took us about three and a half hours before we reached our destination Besigheim.

Last time I was there it was rainy, now we had the exact opposite. After some yummy Chinese lunch we visited the old town. There’s some gorgeous timer framing to see. When kept in decent shape, it just looks so dang cool.

Since it was too hot, we rode back by train. Despite the heat and some sections near the roaring Autobahn, this was a nice hike. Would do it again. Only in colder weather, though. I certainly don’t wanna trade my comperatively larger (still nothing to other more rural areas), covering forests with the wide open fields and vineyards in summer. That’s for sure.

Fire escape staircase camouflaged behind some wooden slats

https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-von-asperg-nach-besigheim-2025-05-01/

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In-reply-to » @movq "topic-based forums/groups", you mean what USENET used to be, and the "niche" that Reddit is fulfilling these days? :-D I get it, I agree. I think I find twtxt more fulfilling than anything else because of its small size. I feel like I truly know everyone (even if that might not be true), and find myself "at home". The bigger the place, the shyest I become, the less enticing it is.

@quark@ferengi.one Despite the Reddit part (I never understood it), this is a great analysis. I could not have put it any better. I also feel quite home here with the all feeds I follow. It’s a small bunch of good people.

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In-reply-to » @movq @bender 28°C right now, but luckily, just 20°C tomorrow and rain. Even a thunderstorm at night. On Sunday we're down to 12°C. What a ride. Oh boys!

The temperatures are getting pleasant now. All the freshly cut grass really smells lovely. Looks like farmers are securing their harvests before the rain hits tomorrow in the arvo.

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In-reply-to » @lyse there are times that it works out to reply to the "flat" conversation, if it fully relates, or the participants are few, or if the strict topic is kept. When there are too many people, or too many topics being spit out, then forking constantly is the way to go. I am a strong proponent of forking. It's like telling the rest, "you debate that there, I will take this one aside".

@bender@twtxt.net It’s like having good manners at the table. Use forks and knives. ;-)

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In-reply-to » @lyse Kind of, but on the other hand: This twt right here refers to 3rvya6q and your feed, but your feed certainly does not include that particular twt (it comes from my feed).

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oooooohhhhhh, I see. Hmmmm.

To answer your question: Ideally, you would have replied directly to my reply. :-) The flat conversation model always felt unnatural to me. I just yielded to the community’s way of doing it.

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In-reply-to » If we must stick to hashes for threading, can we maybe make it mandatory to always include a reference to the original twt URL when writing replies?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de When I reply to a message, I typically already mention the feed. Just like in this very message. I believe this mechanism should work for most replies. But there are of course the odd responses where I do not mention the original feed, but rather some other feed(s) instead to which I actually want to reply. Maybe ā€œforkingā€, as prologic calls it, would be the better option there.

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I visited a good mate after a day in the office and went for a stroll in the evening. It still was really hot, phew, about 24°C. Must have been the aftermath of the fire in the morning! For sure! The firealarm went off during a meeting and we all had to leave the building. Anyway, I only managed to take one lizard photo, all the other ones we came across immediately vanished in the brush or cracks in the vineyard walls. The kestrels were way more cooperative:

Kestrel sitting on the edge of a tower

https://lyse.isobeef.org/asperg-2025-04-30/

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In-reply-to » To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? šŸ¤”

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Agreed, finding the right motivation can be tricky. You sometimes have to torture yourself in order to later then realize, yeah, that was actually totally worth it. It’s often hard.

I think if you find a project or goal in general that these kids want to achieve, that is the best and maybe only choice with a good chance of positive outcome. I don’t know, like building a price scraper, a weather station or whatever. Yeah, these are already too advanced if they never programmed, but you get the idea. If they have something they want to build for themselves for their private life, that can be a great motivator I’ve experienced. Or you could assign ā€˜em the task to build their own twtxt client if they don’t have any own suitable ideas. :-)

Showing them that you do a lot of your daily work in the shell can maybe also help to get them interested in text-based boring stuff. Or at least break the ice. Lead by example. The more I think about it, the more I believe this to be very important. That’s how I still learn and improve from my favorite workmate today in general. Which I’m very thankful of.

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In-reply-to » @prologic Can you please draft up a specification for that proposed change with all the details? Such as which date do you actually refer to? Is it now() or the message's creation timestamp? I reckon the latter is the case, but it's undefined right now. Then we can discuss and potentially tweak the proposal.

@bender@twtxt.net Hehehe! :-D

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I have to admit, I didn’t follow the topic very closely, but I was under the impression that there were more votes on location-based addressing. But maybe I’m completely wrong. Anyway. I don’t have the energy to be part of a fundamental debate.

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In-reply-to » Someone has started to run git pull on one of my repos – once every two minutes. This is a very pointless endeavour. I push new code a couple of times per month.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de You better push new code sooner!!

As @bender@twtxt.net says, that sounds like a bot. I’d just block the IP address, hoping it doesn’t change all the time. But then you know for sure that it’s the AI fuckwits.

Also, the devil in me thinks it’s funny to swap out the repo in question for something entirely different. :-D

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In-reply-to » To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? šŸ¤”

@xuu@txt.sour.is Hahaha, that’s cool! You were (and still are) way ahead of me. :-)

We started with a simple traffic light phase and then added pedestrian crossing buttons. But only painting it on the canvas. In our computer room there was an actual traffic light on the wall and at the very end of the school year our IT basics teacher then modified the program to actually control the physical traffic light. That was very impressive and completely out of reach for me at the time. That teacher pulled the first lever for me ending up where I am now.

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In-reply-to » I went on a small hike, just 12-13km this time. The weather was great, blue sky, sunny 18°C, but with the wind it felt colder. Leaves and other green stuff is exploding like crazy. It looks super beautiful right now.

@prologic@twtxt.net Exactly, @bender@twtxt.net! :-D This is at the entrance of a veggie farm (11 & 12) where there are free-ranging kids playing on the road, so people should slow down when driving there to buy some supplies. I also wondered why the sign says ā€œHalt!ā€ instead of ā€œLangsam fahren!ā€ (Drive slowly!) or something like that. On second thought, maybe to actually park there on the street right at the property line.

I actually never walked on that road before and discovered that this was a dead end. There’s usually at the very least a foot path on which to continue when passing a farm. Not this time, though. I didn’t want to stamp down the high grass to cut across country, so I had to walk back maybe 150 meters. Not too bad.

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In-reply-to » Just like we don't write emails by hand anymore (See: #a3adoka), we don’t manually write Twts or update our twtxt.txt feeds. Instead, we use modern Twtxt clients that conform to the specifications at Twtxt.dev for a seamless, automated experience. #Twtxt #Twt #UserExperience

@prologic@twtxt.net Phew, I’m indeed not twtxt.dev, because I sometimes actually do edit my feed with vim like a barbarian.

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In-reply-to » Finally I propose that we increase the Twt Hash length from 7 to 12 and use the first 12 characters of the base32 encoded blake2b hash. This will solve two problems, the fact that all hashes today either end in q or a (oops) šŸ˜… And increasing the Twt Hash size will ensure that we never run into the chance of collision for ions to come. Chances of a 50% collision with 64 bits / 12 characters is roughly ~12.44B Twts. That ought to be enough! -- I also propose that we modify all our clients and make this change from the 1st July 2025, which will be Yarn.social's 5th birthday and 5 years since I started this whole project and endeavour! 😱 #Twtxt #Update

@prologic@twtxt.net Can you please draft up a specification for that proposed change with all the details? Such as which date do you actually refer to? Is it now() or the message’s creation timestamp? I reckon the latter is the case, but it’s undefined right now. Then we can discuss and potentially tweak the proposal.

Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->

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In-reply-to » To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? šŸ¤”

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I started with Delphi in school, the book (that we never ever used even once and I also never looked at) taught Pascal. The UI part felt easy at first but prevented me from understanding fundamental stuff like procedures or functions or even begin and end blocks for ifs or loops. For example I always thought that I needed to have a button somewhere, even if hidden. That gave me a handler procedure where I could put code and somehow call it. Two or three years later, a new mate from the parallel class finally told me that this wasn’t necessary and how to do thing better.

You know all too well that back in the day there was not a whole lot of information out there. And the bits that did exist were well hidden. At least from me. Eventually discovering planet-quellcodes.de (I don’t remember if that was the original forum or if that got split off from some other board) via my best schoolmate was like finding the Amber Room. Yeah, reading the ITG book would have been a very good idea for sure. :-)

In hindsight, a console program without the UI overhead might have been better. At least for the very start. Much less things to worry about or get lost.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice, it doesn’t require a lot of surrounding boilerplate like, say Java or Go. It also does exceptionally well in the principle of least surprise.

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I went on a small hike, just 12-13km this time. The weather was great, blue sky, sunny 18°C, but with the wind it felt colder. Leaves and other green stuff is exploding like crazy. It looks super beautiful right now.

I came across an unfortunately dead salamander on the forest road, some fenced in deer, heaps of sheep, some unmagnetic cows (some were aligned very roughly north-south, but mainly with the axis of the best view I believe), a maybeetle and finally an awesome sunset. Not too shabby! The sheep were mehing all the time, that was really lovely to hear. And the crickets were already active, too. Didn’t expect them to hear yet. I tried to record the concert, but the wind messed it all up. Oh well.

Sheep

https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2025-04-27/

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I just fixed a bug in tt’s reply to parent feature. Previously, when the message tree looked like the following

Message
ā”œā•“Reply 1
│ └╓Subreply
└╓Reply 2

and ā€œReply 2ā€ was selected, pressing A to reply to the parent should have picked ā€œMessageā€. However, a reply to ā€œReply 2ā€ was composed instead. The reason was a precausiously introduced safety guard to abort the parent search which stopped at ā€œSubreplyā€, because its subject didn’t match ā€œReply 2ā€ā€™s. It was originally intended to abort on a completely different message conversation root. Just in case. Turns out that this thoght was flawed.

Fixing bugs by only removing code is always cool. :-)

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