@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Thatās cool. Also, looks like a fun woodworking project in case you exceed the hundred slots. :-) The plywood lap joints might be quite repetetive, but gang cutting them with a story stick or some other fixture shouldnāt be too terrible.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Their gold teeth collection? ;-)
What do you think I just learned about in this awesome Computerphile video with Matt Godbolt called āSubroutines in Low Level Codeā? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1su3lAh-k4o
Hereās the plot twist, the phrase ātill the cows come homeā. Hahaha, I never heard this before, but I love it! Itās always interesting to me to hear English sayings. Sometimes we have the same in German, sometimes ā like in this case ā entirely different ones. Itās fascinating that even though one hasnāt come across proverbs, itās typically still clear from the context whatās meant.
Yep, some unexpected language stuff. ;-)
Thanks, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! That seems to be much easier. Itās already implemented in the Python docs as examples of recvmsg(ā¦)
and sendmsg(ā¦)
:
- https://docs.python.org/3/library/socket.html#socket.socket.recvmsg
- https://docs.python.org/3/library/socket.html#socket.socket.sendmsg
I looked at them sooo many times in order to figure out why my SCM_CREDENTIALS
sending code didnāt work. :-D
Yesterday, I had a look at Unix domain sockets and how to obtain the caller information: https://lyse.isobeef.org/caller-information-via-unix-domain-sockets/
@bender@twtxt.net Deal!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Oh yeah, this is a great article! The site looks quite horrible, but tastes are different. :-)
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Oh dear, what a way to start the day! :-(
Once again, we had a lovely sunset: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-05-04/
@javivf@adn.org.es You also cut from the front and not the back.
@prologic@twtxt.net I also wore gloves, but after hours of demanding work, my shoulders and wrists were shattered. I hope Iām back to normal tomorrow. :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net To clarify, from my observations on how the system behaves, it feels like that. This doesnāt make it any better, I know. Sorry mate! I never claimed that testing is always easy, but in my experience it sure does help cutting down regressions. But to each their own, no worries. The diagram is all Greek to me. Anyway.
@bender@twtxt.net True.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Indeed, a Wüstenmaus sounds cute. However, a Wüstenratte ā which is more a desert rat ā not so much.
@prologic@twtxt.net ODD, lol. I donāt wanna be rude, but this sounds more like Code And Fix.
We just split about one and a half cubic meters of fire wood at our scout yard. And even more chainsaw action to cut the logs in smaller chunks. Iām bloody tired now. But it was really great fun swinging the axe. I will sleep like a rock tonight.
We went on a 14Ā kilometers long hike in the heat, only a few spots were in the shade, most of our trip was in the open fields with the sun beating down on us. We reapplied the sun blocker after about two hours or so. All in all it took us about three and a half hours before we reached our destination Besigheim.
Last time I was there it was rainy, now we had the exact opposite. After some yummy Chinese lunch we visited the old town. Thereās some gorgeous timer framing to see. When kept in decent shape, it just looks so dang cool.
Since it was too hot, we rode back by train. Despite the heat and some sections near the roaring Autobahn, this was a nice hike. Would do it again. Only in colder weather, though. I certainly donāt wanna trade my comperatively larger (still nothing to other more rural areas), covering forests with the wide open fields and vineyards in summer. Thatās for sure.
https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-von-asperg-nach-besigheim-2025-05-01/
@quark@ferengi.one Despite the Reddit part (I never understood it), this is a great analysis. I could not have put it any better. I also feel quite home here with the all feeds I follow. Itās a small bunch of good people.
The temperatures are getting pleasant now. All the freshly cut grass really smells lovely. Looks like farmers are securing their harvests before the rain hits tomorrow in the arvo.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net 28°C right now, but luckily, just 20°C tomorrow and rain. Even a thunderstorm at night. On Sunday weāre down to 12°C. What a ride. Oh boys!
@bender@twtxt.net Itās like having good manners at the table. Use forks and knives. ;-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de This suits the background image perfectly.
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and your feed, but your feed certainly does not include that particular twt (it comes from my feed).
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oooooohhhhhh, I see. Hmmmm.
To answer your question: Ideally, you would have replied directly to my reply. :-) The flat conversation model always felt unnatural to me. I just yielded to the communityās way of doing it.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de When I reply to a message, I typically already mention the feed. Just like in this very message. I believe this mechanism should work for most replies. But there are of course the odd responses where I do not mention the original feed, but rather some other feed(s) instead to which I actually want to reply. Maybe āforkingā, as prologic calls it, would be the better option there.
I visited a good mate after a day in the office and went for a stroll in the evening. It still was really hot, phew, about 24°C. Must have been the aftermath of the fire in the morning! For sure! The firealarm went off during a meeting and we all had to leave the building. Anyway, I only managed to take one lizard photo, all the other ones we came across immediately vanished in the brush or cracks in the vineyard walls. The kestrels were way more cooperative:
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, I see. I reckon I accidentally late April-fooled myself. :-D
Itās an interesting comparison. I really should have thought about that.
Youāre right, the rendering would not be very spectacular. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Agreed, finding the right motivation can be tricky. You sometimes have to torture yourself in order to later then realize, yeah, that was actually totally worth it. Itās often hard.
I think if you find a project or goal in general that these kids want to achieve, that is the best and maybe only choice with a good chance of positive outcome. I donāt know, like building a price scraper, a weather station or whatever. Yeah, these are already too advanced if they never programmed, but you get the idea. If they have something they want to build for themselves for their private life, that can be a great motivator Iāve experienced. Or you could assign āem the task to build their own twtxt client if they donāt have any own suitable ideas. :-)
Showing them that you do a lot of your daily work in the shell can maybe also help to get them interested in text-based boring stuff. Or at least break the ice. Lead by example. The more I think about it, the more I believe this to be very important. Thatās how I still learn and improve from my favorite workmate today in general. Which Iām very thankful of.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Wow, thatās sick! Assuming the rendering is correct, I never realized the mountain ranges being this steep and tall. This has real education potential for geography classes. Really cool!
git pull
on one of my repos ā once every two minutes. This is a very pointless endeavour. I push new code a couple of times per month.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de In case you reconsider, it would be even easier then to just send an HTTP 429 Too Many Requests
. :-)
now()
or the message's creation timestamp? I reckon the latter is the case, but it's undefined right now. Then we can discuss and potentially tweak the proposal.
@bender@twtxt.net Hehehe! :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I have to admit, I didnāt follow the topic very closely, but I was under the impression that there were more votes on location-based addressing. But maybe Iām completely wrong. Anyway. I donāt have the energy to be part of a fundamental debate.
@prologic@twtxt.net Thank you for writing this together. I just left a few comments.
git pull
on one of my repos ā once every two minutes. This is a very pointless endeavour. I push new code a couple of times per month.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de You better push new code sooner!!
As @bender@twtxt.net says, that sounds like a bot. Iād just block the IP address, hoping it doesnāt change all the time. But then you know for sure that itās the AI fuckwits.
Also, the devil in me thinks itās funny to swap out the repo in question for something entirely different. :-D
Oh wow, that 48 hours timelapse from SDO is super cool: https://social.bund.de/system/media_attachments/files/114/413/834/747/006/466/original/91b1698392ae5188.mp4 At the end, the moon is whizzing by.
@xuu@txt.sour.is Hahaha, thatās cool! You were (and still are) way ahead of me. :-)
We started with a simple traffic light phase and then added pedestrian crossing buttons. But only painting it on the canvas. In our computer room there was an actual traffic light on the wall and at the very end of the school year our IT basics teacher then modified the program to actually control the physical traffic light. That was very impressive and completely out of reach for me at the time. That teacher pulled the first lever for me ending up where I am now.
@prologic@twtxt.net Exactly, @bender@twtxt.net! :-D This is at the entrance of a veggie farm (11 & 12) where there are free-ranging kids playing on the road, so people should slow down when driving there to buy some supplies. I also wondered why the sign says āHalt!ā instead of āLangsam fahren!ā (Drive slowly!) or something like that. On second thought, maybe to actually park there on the street right at the property line.
I actually never walked on that road before and discovered that this was a dead end. Thereās usually at the very least a foot path on which to continue when passing a farm. Not this time, though. I didnāt want to stamp down the high grass to cut across country, so I had to walk back maybe 150 meters. Not too bad.
twtxt.txt
feeds. Instead, we use modern Twtxt clients that conform to the specifications at Twtxt.dev for a seamless, automated experience. #Twtxt #Twt #UserExperience
@prologic@twtxt.net Phew, Iām indeed not twtxt.dev, because I sometimes actually do edit my feed with vim like a barbarian.
7
to 12
and use the first 12
characters of the base32 encoded blake2b hash. This will solve two problems, the fact that all hashes today either end in q
or a
(oops) š
And increasing the Twt Hash size will ensure that we never run into the chance of collision for ions to come. Chances of a 50% collision with 64 bits / 12 characters is roughly ~12.44B Twts. That ought to be enough! -- I also propose that we modify all our clients and make this change from the 1st July 2025, which will be Yarn.social's 5th birthday and 5 years since I started this whole project and endeavour! š± #Twtxt #Update
@prologic@twtxt.net Can you please draft up a specification for that proposed change with all the details? Such as which date do you actually refer to? Is it now()
or the messageās creation timestamp? I reckon the latter is the case, but itās undefined right now. Then we can discuss and potentially tweak the proposal.
Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I started with Delphi in school, the book (that we never ever used even once and I also never looked at) taught Pascal. The UI part felt easy at first but prevented me from understanding fundamental stuff like procedures or functions or even begin
and end
blocks for if
s or loops. For example I always thought that I needed to have a button somewhere, even if hidden. That gave me a handler procedure where I could put code and somehow call it. Two or three years later, a new mate from the parallel class finally told me that this wasnāt necessary and how to do thing better.
You know all too well that back in the day there was not a whole lot of information out there. And the bits that did exist were well hidden. At least from me. Eventually discovering planet-quellcodes.de (I donāt remember if that was the original forum or if that got split off from some other board) via my best schoolmate was like finding the Amber Room. Yeah, reading the ITG book would have been a very good idea for sure. :-)
In hindsight, a console program without the UI overhead might have been better. At least for the very start. Much less things to worry about or get lost.
Hence, Iād recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice, it doesnāt require a lot of surrounding boilerplate like, say Java or Go. It also does exceptionally well in the principle of least surprise.
@sorenpeter@darch.dk I see, ta. The big spring cleaning continues. ;-)
I went on a small hike, just 12-13km this time. The weather was great, blue sky, sunny 18°C, but with the wind it felt colder. Leaves and other green stuff is exploding like crazy. It looks super beautiful right now.
I came across an unfortunately dead salamander on the forest road, some fenced in deer, heaps of sheep, some unmagnetic cows (some were aligned very roughly north-south, but mainly with the axis of the best view I believe), a maybeetle and finally an awesome sunset. Not too shabby! The sheep were mehing all the time, that was really lovely to hear. And the crickets were already active, too. Didnāt expect them to hear yet. I tried to record the concert, but the wind messed it all up. Oh well.
@bender@twtxt.net Must be the US tariffs, itās working reasonably quick in Europe. :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Your next experiment should be triangles. :-)
I just fixed a bug in ttās reply to parent feature. Previously, when the message tree looked like the following
Message
āā“Reply 1
ā āā“Subreply
āā“Reply 2
and āReply 2ā was selected, pressing A
to reply to the parent should have picked āMessageā. However, a reply to āReply 2ā was composed instead. The reason was a precausiously introduced safety guard to abort the parent search which stopped at āSubreplyā, because its subject didnāt match āReply 2āās. It was originally intended to abort on a completely different message conversation root. Just in case. Turns out that this thoght was flawed.
Fixing bugs by only removing code is always cool. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Bwahahaahaaa, this is fucking brilliant, I love it! :-D What a wonderful thing to start my Sunday.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I hightly doubt that I am wiser than you. :-D
@bender@twtxt.net Ha! It turns out, some cows indeed have magnets in them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_disease