@thecanine@twtxt.net Oh! 𤯠Hadnāt heard of this before. And 100% agree with that video.
Iāve got a prototype of my hardcopy simulator going. Iām typing on the keyboard and the ādisplayā goes to the printer:
https://movq.de/v/56feb53912/s.png
https://movq.de/v/235c1eabac/MVI_8810.MOV.mp4
The biiiiiiiiiig problem is that the print head and plastic cover make it impossible to see whatās currently being printed, because this is not a typewriter. This means: In order to see what I just entered, I have to feed the paper back and forth and back and forth ⦠itās not ideal.
I got that idea of moving back/forth from Drew DeVault, who ā as it turned out ā did something similar a few years back. (I tried hard to read as little as possible of his blog post, because figuring things out myself is more fun. But that could mean I missed a great idea here or there.)
But hey, at least this is running on my Pentium 133 on SuSE Linux 6.4, printer connected with a parallel cable. š
(Also, yes, you can see the printouts of earlier tests and, yes, I used ed(1)
wrong at one point. 𤪠And ls
insisted on using colors ā¦)
@bender@twtxt.net That is a noble goal. We can talk about that ā as long as it doesnāt mean giving up essential freedoms like choosing which software you can run on your device (without having to ask someone for permission).
@prologic@twtxt.net Iām not smart enough to answer that question. š Certainly feels like unregulated capitalism. Governments being too slow and/or unwilling to intervene ⦠Itās a mess.
@thecanine@twtxt.net I sure hope thereās going to be push back. Is it going to happen, realistically? I donāt know.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, this is another instance of restricting āpersonalā computing. You wonāt be able to install arbitrary software anymore (āsideloadingā, as they call it).
Itās not unique, itās not new. Boiling the frog alive.
Weāre heading towards this: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
RIP Android:
https://9to5google.com/2025/08/25/android-apps-developer-verification/
Since nobody is going to push back on this (I donāt even know if that would be possible), this is going to be a reality on every platform sooner or later.
Iād guess in 20, 30 years, there wonāt be āPCsā anymore. No more home computing, no more āI just write my own softwareā. You wonāt own devices anymore, itāll all be rented and the landlord will tell you what you can do with it.
I hope that Iām wrong, but given where we are today, I donāt think that I will be.
@prologic@twtxt.net Anything above a couple hundred Euros. š The current Epson LX-350 appears to be not that pricey, though. š¤
I mean, what do you want to do with it? If you want to use this as an actual printer for daily use, Iād get a laser printer instead, because theyāre very reliable and the print quality is top notch.
I got my dot matrix printer mostly for experiments and nostalgia, so I wouldnāt want to pay something like 300-400⬠for it.
@prologic@twtxt.net Itās quite similar to how escape sequences work in a terminal. ASCII text is printed as ASCII text and then an escape sequence can make it bold or underline and so on. Other escape sequences allow you to say āthe following $n
bytes are part of a bitmap imageā, and then this gets printed at whatever the current position is (somewhat similar to SIXEL in a terminal).
Itās just that the units are a bit weird, because this is all done in bloody inch. š
@prologic@twtxt.net Hereās one: https://github.com/vmykh/printer_labs/blob/master/escp2ref.pdf
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, those POS thingies are similar. Thereās āESC/POSā as a variant of āESC/Pā, if Iām not mistaken.
All I can say is, when I go to big stores like Amazon, then I have trouble finding ātraditionalā dot matrix printers for use at home. š Epson still sells them, but theyāre more expensive than my laser printer was. So yeah, they still exist, just expensive, by the looks of it.
@thecanine@twtxt.net Thatās cute. š (Why Clippy, though? š )
@prologic@twtxt.net Hmm, good question. I havenāt checked the market, I got mine from someone I know. But to be honest, Iād suspect that buying a used one is actually your best shot, because there is virtually no market for these devices anymore, meaning new ones are very, very expensive. š«¤
FWIW, I have an OKI Microline 3390eco. Good thing is, you can still buy new cartridges for it.
If you want to buy a new device, check if it supports the āESC/Pā standard. Thatās very widely supported.