@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ruff, the formatter/linter, yeah.

Lol, never heard of that banana moment before, but it sounds very fitting. :-D

No wonder. I just made that up. 🤣

Why.

Python’s numeric types complex, float and int are not subtypes of each other, but to support common use cases, the type system contains a straightforward shortcut: when an argument is annotated as having type float, an argument of type int is acceptable; similar, for an argument annotated as having type complex, arguments of type float or int are acceptable.

https://typing.python.org/en/latest/spec/special-types.html#special-cases-for-float-and-complex

(Wieder so ’n „soll ich’s einfach lassen und lieber ’ne Banane essen“-Moment.)

Bonus points for this:

$ man ruff
No manual entry for ruff

I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo tired of “fast-moving” software. ruff changed a ton of stuff and now all my code bases “need fixing”. Blah.

And SemVer is worth nothing if your 4 year old program with over 16’000 commits is still at “version 0.x”. Blah!

Everything is horrible.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

For the tags feed it would be cool to include the actual changelog entries

Did that now:

🥳

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Bingo!

Oh, yeah, newsboat is good. For this particular use case, I explicitly needed a graphical feed reader, though. 😅 I ended up using Thunderbird, which has its own interesting way of configuring/adding feeds:

https://movq.de/v/a3557e3dc9/vid-1784952576.mp4

Why are feeds categorized as “Mail”? What’s going on with that “Add” button on the left of the dialog? Why does the dialog indicate that there’s a folder called “list-files Recent Commits” which doesn’t really exist in the end? (Why does it take about 1-2 seconds to load 25 feed items?) And so on.

Tell me which one of those “plus” icons on this screenshot you can click and which one is just decoration.

FFS.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hats are back, aren’t they? Lots of people wearing hats these days, like, the big ones. 🤔

06.jpg looks like it’s from another planet. 😅

@klaxzy@klaxzy.net Hey, sounds exactly like the company I work(ed) for.

@prologic@twtxt.net Our company is paying a shitload of money for all these (different) AI tools … I’m probably not allowed to tell you the exact number, but it is a lot. The only other way would be to lay off employees, so we can pay even more for AI. (Needless to say, that would be the worst possible move.)

For a private person, $20 a month is also pretty expensive, isn’t it? And then assume that you maybe need more than one AI tool. You’re quickly up to $50 a month or much more. This isn’t something that I, as a private person, will ever be willing to spend for this kind of stuff.

“AI” is just expensive as fuck. On every level. They will have to (ab)use every possible way to squeeze more money out of it, and that includes ads and what not.

@prologic@twtxt.net This was to be expected and I’m glad that it’s finally happening. I seriously hope that AI/LLM output gets swamped with advertisements or unwanted code, so people see what they have gotten themselves into, especially the “vibe coders”.

@david@daiwei.me You might have ended up loading the page in an unfortunate moment while I was reworking it. 😅 The CHANGES file is there, in the browser:

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, the feed names are legacy and I didn’t want to set up redirect rules. (I can’t really tell if anybody actually uses them …)

Extracting the info from the CHANGES file would be nice. Maybe I’ll add that. :-)

I’ve stopped providing tarballs for branches now. This was pretty pointless, I think.

@david@daiwei.me Is this better? 🤔 Pretty hard to keep this concise but also not miss anything. 🤔 https://movq.de/git/jenny/

@david@daiwei.me Oh, that is a good idea. This could be included here, yeah. 🤔

Hmm …

My project pages have this “Downloads” section and I offer tarballs for each release:

https://movq.de/git/jenny/#downloads

I added this many years ago because an OpenBSD dev asked for it (but the project in question didn’t end up in their ports after all).

What are your thoughts on this? Is it necessary to offer tarballs?

I noticed that some distributions have already moved away from using tarballs and instead always clone from Git. 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh, yes, just for clarity: This wasn’t a “pro GitHub” argument. 😅 I won’t go back there (or to another “forge”).

I think we’re totally on the same page: Decentralized Git hosting is good, but we haven’t solved the “collaboration” part yet. Or rather: We have to modernize it. The tools are already there, but (many) people don’t want to use them and think they’re clunky.

@dce@hashnix.club Yeah, but I haven’t looked into this specific issue. I am very much anti-AI, but this particular thing might be human error. I don’t know.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, I’m sure they’ll keep hammering dead URLs for many years to come. These crawlers are 100% brain dead. And they don’t even need to be smarter, because they still grab valuable stuff left and right.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

How many tickets and merge requests did you get before moving to your own server?

Hm, these were probably some of the more active projects:

• https://github.com/vain/lariza/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  
• https://github.com/vain/pdfPres/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  
• https://github.com/vain/xiate/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  

So it’s not a ton of stuff and there are many “issues” I opened myself, but it’s certainly more than these days.

Haven’t used git send-email even once. I definitely have to look into that soon. Wanted to do that for several years. I typically upload the patch to my server and send a link via IRC.

git send-email is good for sending patches to a mailing list (because then the individual patches can be discussed easily), but since those are dying out as well, it loses its appeal. If you want to send patches to a single person, just sending the link to your repo is far easier. 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh dear, that’s cute. 😃

I’m seeing some slowdowns in Vim lately. Must have something to do with syntax highlighting or indentation rules or something: When I hit Enter to go to the next line, it sometimes freezes for like 100 ms. It’s pretty annoying.

Doesn’t happen in Vim Classic, so I switched all my machines to that now.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thanks. 😅 Yeah, I already found it slightly annoying myself. Let’s see how the bots respond to the new situation. 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net Hmmm, I have no idea how to solve that problem. 😅 Some jenny stuff aside, I received zero bug reports or code contributions since leaving GitHub in 2018.

I thought I had made that super easy, because you can just send me an email – no sign-up process, nothing. But that’s way too old-school, people don’t know how to use git format-patch (let alone git send-email) and they also don’t understand that they can just send me a link to their forked Git repo (which can be hosted anywhere). Git is super flexible and powerful, but those features are hardly ever used.

Maybe people even need some kind “reward”, or “fame”. Like those “achievements” that you can unlock on GitHub. (Something to put in their CV … ?)

Are you aware of the Residential Proxy pest?

https://spur.us/blog/smart-tv-apps-residential-proxy-sdks

This explains the access patterns that I see in my logs.

It’s funny, because I used to warn years ago that this might happen, and then I lost track of this topic. Now here we are and it’s a real issue. 🤦‍♀️

@prologic@twtxt.net Which is? 😅

Okay, so this is live now under https://movq.de/git/. („Kurzen Prozess gemacht.“)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org A small portion of people might do the headphone thing because of autism or sensory issues, to isolate them from annoying noises. I used to do that myself. 🤔

Okay, so, my website also includes my code / git repos, and those are made browsable by stagit. What I don’t like about this (these days) is that this includes all the diffs of my commits. In other words: All my code.

This makes it super easy for malicious crawlers to slurp up valuable data. I don’t like that.

I’m thinking about switching to this instead:

https://movq.de/git2/

It still shows project infos and there are Atom feeds, but to get the code, you have to actually clone the repos.

🤔

(If you spot any bugs, let me know.)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I was wondering for an embarrassingly long time why my NAS wouldn’t boot. (The main power supply switch was turn off.) 🤪

Falls sich hier noch jemand fragte, was genau mein Humor ist:

https://sueden.social/@DerSash/112366647794794897

Das Gegenteil von Erbse ist Verdiense.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Das ertrag’ ich wahrscheinlich nur auf Mute. Scheiß Lärm. 🤣

Note to self: If you turn something off, this means it is not on.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Stimmt, das hatte ich völlig vergessen. Gab da mal diese Zeit, in der „Forenbeiträge“ die Pest waren. 🤔 Da ist sie also wieder, die rosarote Nostalgiebrille. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net @itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com “Enterprise” Java ruins everything, eh? 😅 I only did that very briefly, luckily.

Das jüngste Posting im Shell und Programmieren-Forum bei ubuntuusers.de ist jetzt 1.5 Monate alt. 😢

Was hab’ ich dieses Forum früher geliebt. Aber das Medium ist einfach tot, niemand ist mehr an so einem Austausch interessiert …

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org It reads a lot nicer, yeah. And you can do oink.my_property += 1 as well, for example.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Good question, I don’t know yet if the standard library has been extended a lot. 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net No. After the cutoff-date, hashes are expected to be v2. End of story.

(In jenny, a twt can only ever have one thing that can be used for threading.)

I trip over this in our code at work all the time.

Python has this concept of “properties”:

class Oink:
    def __init__(self):
        self._foo = 3

    @property
    def my_property(self):
        return self._foo


a = Oink()
print(a.my_property)

my_property() is a method but it can be used as if it were a field.

This can also be used to define a setter:

class Oink:
    def __init__(self):
        self._foo = 3

    @property
    def my_property(self):
        return self._foo

    @my_property.setter
    def my_property(self, value):
        self._foo = 123 * value

Because, for some reason, Python people don’t like getters and setters. Instead, they hide it behind a property.

The result is, when you read this:

a.my_property = 5
print(a.my_property)

You have no idea that this actually calls a method.

@david@daiwei.me The stuff in parens is lost on yarnd:

@david@daiwei.me Yeah, Oracle is a Dumpster Fire, that’s true. 🫤

Does yarnd still support the old “threading”? Let’s see.

I really think I should go back to Java.

Writing programs in Python is so exhausting. I want a compiler and I want static typing. No, linters and type checkers and IDEs are not good enough. Compilers catch way more errors in advance.

Rust is also exhausting. They’re constantly adding language features and, at the same time, the runtime library remains tiny and you need 3rd party libraries for everything. Many of those are still at version 0.x (SemVer!) and you can’t rely on anything. Often times, you need the latest Rust nightly compiler.

Go is … I don’t like it. And huge binaries.

I like C as a language, but it’s too fragile. I want to have a proper HashMap every now and then.

None of the above have good GUI libraries, at least not on Linux.

And then there’s Java. This is my fractal renderer that I wrote over 17 years ago:

https://movq.de/v/fcd3c4e557/vid-1784121825.mp4

It’s fast. It has a GUI with custom widgets and those weren’t even hard to make. It still works without changing a single line of code. The source code files have timestamps from 2009 and I just noticed that the JAR file I’m using in the video was compiled in 2010.

Java as a language is relatively easy to learn and to master. There are few surprises. The source code organization with packages is good. Java API docs are clear and well written.

The JVM ramp-up times have improved considerably:

https://movq.de/v/e7314e521e/vid-1784121998.mp4

This isn’t like the Dark Ages anymore. Might even be usable for some CLI tools.

The only thing where Java really sucks is anything close-ish to the kernel. Try issuing an ioctl() … I couldn’t have made my TUI framework in Java, but then again, I wouldn’t have needed to because Swing already exists and it just works.

@prologic@twtxt.net See, that’s what edit/delete is good for. 😅🤪

@david@daiwei.me That’s a good thing. I still use it heavily, but I also realize that it is addictive. This whole idea of getting likes and boosts is horrible. Seeing “number goes up” is inherently addictive design, if you ask me. This should never have been added to a Free Platform like Mastodon, and I’m glad that twtxt doesn’t have anything like it.

@david@daiwei.me 🤣

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, okay, the default being local means it only stores this stuff offline. So they claim. I don’t trust this and I don’t want to go anywhere near it.