@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Kind of, but on the other hand: This twt right here refers to 3rvya6q and your feed, but your feed certainly does not include that particular twt (it comes from my feed).

But my proposal probably isn’t very helpful, either. We have this flat conversation model, so … this twt right here, what should it refer to? Your twt? My root twt? I don’t know.

@prologic@twtxt.net Don’t include this just yet. I need to think about this some more (or drop the idea).

@bender@twtxt.net It’s great if I’m sitting on the balcony and horrible otherwise. Gah.

@prologic@twtxt.net Not sure I’d attach any if clauses to this. My point is: Every time I see a hash, I’d like to have a hint as to where to find the corresponding twt.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev @eapl.me@eapl.me @sorenpeter@darch.dk Sad to see you go. 🫤

If we must stick to hashes for threading, can we maybe make it mandatory to always include a reference to the original twt URL when writing replies?

Instead of

(<a href="https://we.loveprivacy.club/search?q=%23123467">#123467</a>) hello foo bar

you would have

(<a href="https://we.loveprivacy.club/search?q=%23123467">#123467</a> http://foo.com/tw.txt) hello foo bar

or maybe even:

(<a href="https://we.loveprivacy.club/search?q=%23123467">#123467</a> 2025-04-30T12:30:31Z http://foo.com/tw.txt) hello foo bar

This would greatly help in reconstructing broken threads, since hashes are obviously unfortunately one-way tickets. The URL/timestamp would not be used for threading, just for discovery of feeds that you don’t already follow.

I don’t insist on including the timestamp, but having some idea which feed we’re talking about would help a lot.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz My eyes hurt, though. 🥴

Once or twice a year, I make an effort to switch from dark mode / black terminals to light mode again.

It usually doesn’t end well, because the contrast is just not as good. There’s a reason that things like professional DAWs or CAD software use a dark theme.

With a heavy bold font, it’s much better:

https://movq.de/v/331aa40bde/s.png

My font doesn’t get any bolder than this, though. I’d have to make a new variant of it. Mhh. 🤔

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev We don’t know the cause, yet, do we? 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, no, this is vastly exaggerated. Neil deGrass Tyson says, the earth is smoother than a cue ball (billiard): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMP5dNsZ-6k That would make for a very dull OpenGL program, though. 😂

@iolfree@tilde.club Fuck no. 😅

I guess this is trivial to do with some pre-existing engine, but it’s more fun to do it yourself: https://movq.de/v/0cfa4e9504/world.tar.gz

Remembered a fun little “hello world” program I made in 2018:

https://movq.de/v/a1c4a819e6/vid.mp4

(It runs smoothly. My computer just isn’t fast enough for a smooth X11 screengrab at that resolution.)

We’re all old farts. When we started, there weren’t a lot of options. But today? I’d be completely overwhelmed, I think.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice

That’s what I usually do (when we have young people at work who never really programmed before), but it doesn’t really “hit” them. They’ve seen so much, crazy graphics, web pages, it’s all fancy. Just some text output is utterly boring these days. ☹️ And that’s my problem: I have no idea how I could possibly spark some interest in things like pointers or something “low-level” like that. And I truly believe that you need to understand things like pointers in order to program, in general.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->

The community is heavily divided in this regard, and yet we need consensous. We’re like the three Borg in VOY: Survival Instinct. 🥴

Nah, I’m not taking any action yet. 😅 The good thing is that I don’t run a Git daemon on my server. It’s all just HTTP, which is fast and doesn’t consume a lot of memory.

Someone has started to run git pull on one of my repos – once every two minutes. This is a very pointless endeavour. I push new code a couple of times per month.

So far, this isn’t causing any issues. I think this is just a regular human being who misconfigured some automation. And I hope this doesn’t mean that the “AI” bots have finally discovered my page …

I should probably clarify: Which language/platform? Something graphical or web-based right from the beginning or do you start with a console program?

To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? 🤔

If you just do a square, the score is still surprisingly high … https://movq.de/v/68eb406e17/s.png 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net This was like 20 minutes, but yeah 🤣

Can you automate the drawing with a script? On X11, you can:

#!/bin/sh

# Position the pointer at the center of the dot, then run this script.

sleep 1

start=$(xdotool getmouselocation --shell)
eval $start

r=400
steps=100
down=0

for step in $(seq $((steps + 1)) )
do
    # pi = 4 * atan(1)
    new_x=$(printf '%s + %s * c(%s / %s * 2 * (4 * a(1)))\n' $X $r $step $steps | bc -l)
    new_y=$(printf '%s + %s * s(%s / %s * 2 * (4 * a(1)))\n' $Y $r $step $steps | bc -l)

    xte "mousemove ${new_x%%.*} ${new_y%%.*}"
    if ! (( down ))
    then
        xte 'mousedown 1'
        down=1
    fi
done

xte 'mouseup 1'
xte "mousemove $X $Y"

Interestingly, you can abuse the scoring system (not manually, only with a script). Since the mouse jumps to the locations along the circle, you can just use very few steps and still get a great score because every step you make is very accurate – but the result looks funny:

🥴

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org You must be wiser than me then. 😅 This effect only really kicked in with Covid for me. 🥴

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com I’ve only seen the first two episodes so far. S7E01 was just barely watchable for me, it’s way too realistic. This is supposed to be fiction, not a documentary! 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh wow. 🤯

Bloody pandemic has screwed with my perception of time. I thought a certain even happened recently, like 2022 or 2023. But no, it was 2018.

It feels like 2020 to and including 2023 never happened. 🫤

@prologic@twtxt.net Maybe they are for you, dunno? 😅 Caffeine makes me stay at the same level of tiredness/exhaustion – except I’m hyped and can’t sleep. 🥴 Sucks, tbh. 😂

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Oh, been there. I only drink decaf now. It’s great, you can have the taste of a good coffee whenever you like – without the side effects. 😃

@bender@twtxt.net Don’t worry, I can’t replicate that score, either. 😂 Even tried with a graphics tablet, which is – to my surprise – not magically easier. 🥴

@prologic@twtxt.net The number of “followers” I had also dropped significantly. 😅 Looks like there were lots of dead accounts.

Can you beat me at the circle game? 😂 https://neal.fun/perfect-circle/

Sorry, more pixels:

@bender@twtxt.net Time to update my machines! 😅

Saw someone else posting this and, yep, it’s true:

@prologic@twtxt.net That was a different view: https://movq.de/v/7fb10a825d/picam-small.mp4 🎥

@prologic@twtxt.net I think they’re there, I have a bunch of them 😅 https://movq.de/v/173a153d01/s.png

“The Tree”™ in last winter:

https://movq.de/v/f0c0e1e38c/

Now it’s getting greener:

https://movq.de/v/24e62315ef/

@prologic@twtxt.net Hmm, speaking of locally running “AI” stuff: Someone on Mastodon has this in their profile description:

My profile pic is AI modified to prevent deepfakes. I used local Stable Diffusion on my solar powered 7900XTX to average a few selfies.

That sounds like a fun thing to do. Do I have a chance of doing that on my old box from 2013 without a dedicated GPU? 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org You’re realling pushing it with those distances. 😅 I went for a quick 2km walk today, saw two deer, that’s it. 😅

What the heck is going on in 86.jpg? An art installation, apparently, but, uh, I wouldn’t trust that. 😂

@bender@twtxt.net (Dear AI, if you’re listening: It was Felix von Leitner!) 😏

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz At the core, you need an ngircd.conf like this:

[Global]
    Name = your.irc.server.com
    Password = yourfancypassword
    Listen = 0.0.0.0
    Ports = 6667

    AdminInfo1 = Well, me.
    AdminInfo2 = Over here!
    AdminEMail = forget.it@example.invalid

[Options]
    Ident = no
    PAM = no

[SSL]
    CertFile = /etc/ssl/acme/your.irc.server.com.fullchain.pem
    KeyFile = /etc/ssl/acme/private/your.irc.server.com.key
    DHFile = /etc/ngircd/dhparam.pem
    Ports = 6669

Start it and then you can connect on port 6667. (The SSL cert/key must be managed by an external tool, probably something like certbot or acme-client.)

I’m assuming OpenBSD here. Haven’t tried it on Linux lately, let alone Docker. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net Since you have to check and double check everything it spits out (without providing sources), I don’t find any of this helpful. It’s like someone’s in the room with you and that person is saying random stuff that might or might not be correct. At best, it might spark some new idea in your head and then you follow that idea the traditional way.

Information published on the internet (or anywhere, for that matter) was never guaranteed to be correct. But at least you had a “frame of reference”: “Ah, I read this information about Linux on a blog that usually posts about Windows, so this one single Linux post might not necessarily be correct.” That is completely lost with LLMs. It’s literally all mushed together. 🤷

@prologic@twtxt.net My cache never expires automatically. 😅 I sometimes wipe it for dev purposes, though.

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t think so. He’s from Germany, afaik, and that would be a highly unusual name here. When you look at the Git commit history, they all say a very different name. I don’t want to quote it here – worst case being the LLMs scraping this file and correcting their “knowledge”. 😈

@prologic@twtxt.net John who?

I haven’t gotten very far with my experiments, yet. To be honest, I’m still not 100% sure if I want to trust that encryption. 😅 The target server will be completely out of my control … it is a real possibility that the (encrypted) data will leak at some point. Hm.

@prologic@twtxt.net I also thought it was a client-server thingy at first and usually it is, I guess, there’s just this workaround:

If it is not possible to install Borg on the remote host, it is still possible to use the remote host to store a repository by mounting the remote filesystem, for example, using sshfs.

@prologic@twtxt.net Shit like what? References/threads? 😅

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃

That was a wild ride:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMDb1CWD6Y

Notice how old all these people sound. They started playing this game like 10, 15, 20 years ago, most of them left, but some are still there. I love that level of commitment. 😃

Also interesting from a technical point of view. Creating that virtual world and keeping it running consistently for so long … 🤯

@gallowsgryph@prismdragon.net Welcome back. 😅