Well, we can’t have it both ways! 😅 Should we assume twtxt are read by clients, and not worry about something humans won’t see? 🤭

The missing context makes it kind of hard to follow.

@prologic@twtxt.net does it renders threads nicely, or is it a straight, flat, timeline.

Because it needs to be seeing bigger!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org pretty cool! No processing, those are the colours the camera saw, right? Amazing!

Now the wait starts. 😩😂

@prologic@twtxt.net I will ping you on the 15th. Enjoy the weekend, mate! Don’t worry, the Mills DC will continue to run 😂. Disconnect, and have fun!

@prologic@twtxt.net you want this, https://key.sour.is/id/me@sour.is?

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com twtxt isn’t one of the available proofs: https://docs.keyoxide.org/

Heck, fuck http too. https, or die.

I say fuck gemini, and gopher. 😅

The problem we are sporadically experiencing relates to content, specifically the editing of it. It breaks things.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org talk about an epic adventure! :-D

@prologic@twtxt.net yup.

@prologic@twtxt.net iPhone 16 Pro Max for you, for sure. If significant other likes to take pictures as much as mine, then one for her too. That’s $1,200 each (with 256GB storage).

Getting ready for the Apple Event. Are you watching it live, @prologic@twtxt.net, or afterwards? :-P

@prologic@twtxt.net any reason why there is salty, and salty-keygen? Why not both into one?

@prologic@twtxt.net hey, what’s the one liner to sign using an SSH key with salty?

I think I know what I did wrong. LOL. I used the wrong repository. Going for go install go.mills.io/salty/cmd/salty@latest instead. Duh!

@prologic@twtxt.net So, I did go install go.salty.im/saltyim/cmd/salty-chat@latest, moved salty-chat to my bin as salty, and that one liner isn’t working. What am I doing wrong?

@prologic@twtxt.net can salty verify ed25519 signed messages? I asked on IRC, but never got a reply (or I missed it).

Wow, a blast from the past. Look at that Yarn version!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org let’s do Drops of Jupiter too! (hopefully my markdown foo works, if not I am editing and breaking replies! 😅)

https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oooooh! That one looks lovely too! Let me know when there is something to alpha/beta test. I am volunteering! 😊

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I just wanted to state that this is excellent news! Are you going to use some BubbleTea? 🙈

@prologic@twtxt.net do the existing major clients today perform that verification, or is it simply “hey, there is that thingy let’s use it for reference!”?

@prologic@twtxt.net about this:

“I think Email Message-Id(s) only ever worked because typically you are exchanging emails with recipients you know and vice versa […]


Absolutely not! Maybe this is something best talked. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net I kind of want to think of twtxts as chalk text written on a board hanging in front of the user’s house. As the user is in full control of their own board, they can erase, and rewrite it as they deem fit.

So, how to reply, and engage with something that can potentially change? I think the email based message-id, and in-reply-to would work best, without the rigid boundary of a hash that’s bound to break on edit.

@prologic@twtxt.net you wrote:

“[…] they can trust that the hash is a cryptographic representing of the thread they’re replying to, no matter what.”

It isn’t about trust, is it? There has to be some kind of check to verify the hash is valid, no?

@prologic@twtxt.net “I’m now 100% certain this is what happened”, what exactly happened?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org funny that you mention it. Sendgrid, for better or worse, cancels your account after X amount of inactivity. It does it in such way you can’t reopen it, you must create a new one. So, I logged in on the account, but really couldn’t do anything. Such predicament would have awaited for the would be phishers as well. So, you see, they were pre-destined to failure without even knowing it. LOL.

@prologic@twtxt.net it is the attention to detail. Evidently no one from Australia tried to login on my Sendgrid account, but the IP the used correlates to the GeoIP DB.

Notice the detail on the IP address mentioned. It is one assigned to Australia: https://ipgeolocation.io/browse/ip/203.0.113.78

This happened yesterday:

The first give away is the sender, sendgrid@autovitalsinc.com. Not Sengrid. Now, check the URL on the link provided to check the account activity:

https://u906946.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=u001.eXk7eIEvNT22LuyWQ0fseoc5VY1jItvxPoavh2wfNVs292YMzvTAPj5D6nek1U6K7UfW_AsM5Hq3TBeAGlZrT-2F3g23iWCcJRPGZ-2B58DJxpgMgOTjgWklNQiAdGiHqmR6FFVhfWZJhnu1PSRslMuKGg1XNZs5e1lGu8kmdKhv7otlghl6qLMXiiXYZcvaUB5NruWwSBFcLdvi31NY-2Fru5oyrcrugm2iLYA0u5TiufyvA7SNTo3sDHx6WtS-2FmfEyN2svb9k1S4QGRFhuDseidMiFm0f9Q-3D-3D

I was curious, so I follow it on my dedicated VM for these kind of things. It took me to a page looking exactly like a Sendgrid login, with a sendgrid.net URL. Upon entering yourmotherisahamster@gmail.com, as username, and yourfathersmellsofelderberries as password, it sent me to https://screenprank.com/gandalf/.

It was well done. This morning the same link renders a blank page with a “Not found” link that takes you to a 404. Hmm…

@prologic@twtxt.net well, that’s a mighty reason not to do anything else! It has been already 8 hours, but I wish and hope you had a good night sleep. I woke up today, using 50% of my will power to do so.

@prologic@twtxt.net come on, provide us with a one liner curl foo that does just that, don’t be lazy! :-P

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t. I will pay close attention on any oddity I see next time. Sorry!

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net a few. :-) And thanks!

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net which one? 😅

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net ya, entiendo. Asi nos pasa a todos, creo. Vamos, que nos gusta, nos gusta! 🙂

Err, Garner, rather.

Somebody likes Jennifer Gardner… 😊

Oh, and about the “There’s so little going on in general, it hardly matters. 😅”, the issue I have with it is that it is mostly one-way junk. Why to bother following that which never engages, or spews seemingly non-sense into the air (or both!)? 😅

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this is @quark@ferengi.one’s follow list:

anth http://a.9srv.net/tw.txt
bender https://twtxt.net/user/bender/twtxt.txt
johanbove https://johanbove.info/twtxt.txt
ionores https://twtxt.net/user/ionores/twtxt.txt
lyse https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt
mckinley https://twtxt.net/user/mckinley/twtxt.txt
movq https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt
prologic https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt
stigatle https://yarn.stigatle.no/user/stigatle/twtxt.txt
thecanine https://twtxt.net/user/thecanine/twtxt.txt
xuu https://txt.sour.is/user/xuu/twtxt.txt
abucci https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt
soren https://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
aelaraji https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt
dbucklin https://www.davebucklin.com/twtxt.txt
falsifian https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt
off_grid https://twtxt.net/user/off_grid_living/twtxt.txt
yarn_police https://twtxt.net/user/yarn_police/twtxt.txt

And the Maildir size is 212MB. What size (not followers list) is yours?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de right, there is no way to forbid anyone from editing their text files. There is no hand holding here. :-D Thank you very much for shedding light into this “mystery”!

Weird, this just happened. It went away on page reload.

@prologic@twtxt.net it hasn’t been solved, that’s why we are here on this yarn, still. LOL. I believe the hash mismatch is happening because of an edited twtxt. I don’t follow the OP, so I have no way to check (not that I am certain it could be possible), but I have seeing similar issues in the past as a result of an edit. That’s one of the reasons I don’t edit anymore. 😬

@prologic@twtxt.net why would you think it is changed in jenny? Falsifian (I still can’t mention while on mobile) said jenny, and the manual calculation match. Yarn seems to be the one at odd.

@mckinley@twtxt.net I used the official client, but logged on my PDS, running under my control.

Serious open (for anyone) question: what makes you follow someone on twtxt? Will you just follow anyone that you come across, simply because that someone using the “decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers” microblog?