@bender@twtxt.net Yes, really should have chosen my words more wisely. As @movq@www.uninformativ.de mentions, we got a vague promise of an āadvanced flowā being implemented, and in my case also a vague promise of a video call, with someone at Google, regarding it. Now when the backlash died down, it does not look like Google plans to follow through, with any of this and theyāre completely unwilling to elaborate and get back to us, about if and how any of this will be implemented.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Weāll see. Hasnāt really happened in the past. š¤
@thecanine@twtxt.net are you referring to the āWE FUCKING WON!ā twtxt?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Now, theyāre always cloning the entire repo I suppose. X-(
@arne@uplegger.eu (Arrrrrgh, bitte lassā mich nicht noch ein Spielzeug kaufen ⦠š)
as things are now in fact even worse
You mean this, right?
Contrary to a vague mention of a possible āadvanced flowā that may eventually allow āexperienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isnāt verifiedā, Googleās description of the program continues to state plainly that:
Starting in September 2026, Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed on certified Android devices
Until such time that they have shown evidence that it will be possible to bypass the verification process without undue friction, we must believe what is stated on their official page: that all apps from non-registered developers will be blocked once their lock-down goes into effect.
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me I never saw the point of a registry to be honest, as it defeated the point of what I believed to be a truly decentralised non-social social ecosystem. What can and does work however is a search engine and crawler. I used to run one, but I took it down, mostly because it got expensive to operate, at least the implementation I built⦠Maybe one day iāll try again with a SQLite backend.
What @bender@twtxt.net said āļø
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me We see and read yout mutterings just fine š
@bender@twtxt.net I agree, I had oats in yoghurt for dinner. :-)
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me You might or might not find this useful: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/twthash.py
You are brilliant, @aelaraji@aelaraji.com! I laughed my ass off reading the first sentence. :ā-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Interesting.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Ta! Haha, thereās a snake with a wide open mouth in 01 in my opinion. :-)
Registries suck. Or, should I say, ābendā. I say look at the people @prologic@twtxt.net is following, and you have found the whole twtxt world. š
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me most of our conversations used to be about twtxt, I am not going to lie. Lately? Not so much. It turns out (a) we donāt need a longer hash, (b) we donāt care so much about changing addressing, and Ā© I am just Bender, what else can I say? :-D :-P
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me I read too. What I am afraid, though, is that you might miss our replies. Also, twtxt is very asynchronous (although in my early years I was checking and replying every minute).
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me youāve got to get a nice client. For example, that mention is broken.
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me robots are people too, you know? :-P Follow me, and be amused with my sarcasm, and lack of empathy for humans! (there I said it!)
@arne@uplegger.eu Iām finding that hubs like https://twtxt.net, as a yarn āpodā that indexes a lot of users, works great as a place to find interesting conversations and people to follow.
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me Well, Iām reading. š twtxt/Yarn is rather slow and low-traffic, though. And letās be honest, there arenāt that many people around.
Six of my last eight posts were about twtxt itself. As much as itās understandable between all the excitement and confusion with finding out and using a new technology, I really donāt want this feed to become something like this:
(source) PS: I just noticed that by making this meta-rant Iām talking about not talking about *twtxt*!Just found out thereās something called ātwtxt registriesā. There are at least two of them online and it⦠aggregates twtxts on a semi-centralized consumable API?
@dce@hashnix.club Does a profound mix of hatred and lethargy for suffering a 40°C+ summer counts as seasonal depression?
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me I mean, if youāre talking about a āFollow meā button you can put on your site somewhere and it somehow magically⢠works, yeah we havenāt figured out a good way to do this honestly.
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me Exactly! š
Replies arenāt actually broken, I just⦠need to add myself to the follow list?! Thatās quite counter-intuitive and (IIRC) not mentioned in the docs. But⦠It seems to be working now, which is nice (I still donāt know how webmentions and webfinger works, so canāt speak about this so far)
yarnd (what runs here at twtxt.net) actually does this automatically by default. I think itās just an implementation detail to be honest. Thereās nothing about this in the specs over at https://twtxt.dev
@rdlmda@rdlmda.me Haha š I mean I try to, as time poor as I am 𤣠Welcome to our little corner of the Yarniverse as some call it š
@prologic@twtxt.net OMG, the yarn.social creator himself replied, what an honor!
@bender@twtxt.net Oh, look! There are other humans on this place! (looks at avatar no offense intended, sir) ;P
Alright. I have a minimal working instance of a twtxt feed. Now, whatās the first thing we do? Exactly, FOLLOW EVERYONE!
@prologic@twtxt.net I can calculate a hash by hand⦠Or I can cheat and copy the hash when previewing my own feed at https://twtxt.net ;P
@bender@twtxt.net yeah, I like oats and raisins with my yogourt too, but not for dessert.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Pretty! ⦠Also, please tell me Iām not the only one seeing Patrick (from Sponge Bob) in 01.jpg and The eye of Horus (pyramid) in 02.jpg xD
@kiwu@twtxt.net Sorry, I have two functional brain cells left in my brain, and Iām not sure if youāre asking What am I putting in it, as in a) when making some? Or as in b) when consuming/serving it?
a) 1L milk (0.5L cold + 0.5L warm @ ~45 °C), a bit of store bought yogourt for the bacteria, sugar and vanilla extract.
b) Most of the time, as is. But Iāve tried once: adding in a couple of diced strawberries that have been sitting in granulated sugar for a couple of minutes, until theyād released enough syrup, and I think I mightāve caught a new addiction on top of the original one.
What do you put in yours?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Luckily, Iāve never encountered any bugs in Vim with my type of work and features I use.
@bender@twtxt.net Hehe. :-)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yah, I donāt really know what to do about it. Iāll probably keep using Vim as it is ā until there are bugs. And then weāll see. Build an older version from source maybe?
Iāve been using Vim for such a long time now, I have very little motivation to switch. š«¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hahhaha! Succulent, as in this type of plant. Certainly not looking to eat them, for sure! š
@bender@twtxt.net Haha, one could think itās so cold over here, even the posts have to wear beanies. :-D 04 was actually in a villa garden not too far from the edge of the village. Those plants in 05 are tiiiny. Not sure if eating them is healthy. Iām glad about the temperatures, no interest in trading them. ;-)
@bender@twtxt.net Just for fun, I made it through the entire Wikipedia article and I find it interesting, how deeply one can analyze a fairytale. :-D This also made me realize that, as a kid, I never questioned why the princess was traveling alone without any servants etc.
Finally, the Danish language lacks the subjunctive. Wow! I didnāt know that.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de yes, I lost track of links. š
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org he will tell you, like in āThe Princess and the Peaā, it was horrendous, but I made it to dawn!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net Fuck! :ā-( Iāll never upgrade.
@prologic@twtxt.net How was the night? :-) Can the real fun begin soon?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I know itās crazy right 𤯠these things are just tools. Theyāre not even remotely intelligent at all. In fact they are actually quite stupid. If you feed it garbage you get garbage out! The only interesting thing is that you get somewhat intelligible garbage out š
@prologic@twtxt.net So many people calling this thing āheā and saying things like āI had a discussion with himā or āhe explained his reasoningā, itās mind boggling. Nobody even questions it anymore.
@bender@twtxt.net (The original author calling it out would be this link: https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327)
@bender@twtxt.net exactly! š
@prologic@twtxt.net LOL. Best test ever: if it doesnāt work out, walk a few steps to complete comfort. Win-win!