ProcessOne: Europe’s Decentralized Messaging Survives “Chat Control” Threat
Good news for anyone building messaging infrastructure in Europe: Denmark&aposs Council presidency is abandoning mandatory detection orders in the Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) proposal for now. The proposal was nickna … ⌘ Read more
** Delta chatting **
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Chat Control proposal fails again after public opposition
Article URL: https://andreafortuna.org/2025/11/01/chat-control-proposal-fails-again-after-massive-public-opposition/
Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45783114
Points: 500
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Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy
Article URL: https://therecord.media/demark-reportedly-withdraws-chat-control-proposal
Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45765664
Points: 500
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XMPP Interop Testing: Putting NTA 7532 to the Test (Literally)
You might have seen the XMPP Standards Foundation’s open letter to NEN about NTA 7532, the Dutch effort to standardise secure healthcare chat. It’s a good read, and, as it happens, right up our street.
If you’re building a chat system that has to actually talk to someone else’s chat system (and keep doctors happy while doing it), you’ll kno … ⌘ Read more
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Nothing special, just fooling around in corporate chats. 🤪
Ignite Realtime Blog: Helping Dutch Healthcare Speak the Same Language with XMPP
Helping Dutch Healthcare Speak the Same Language with XMPPThe XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) has put out a call to action: it’s time for the community to help make secure, interoperable chat a reality - especially in healthcare. Here at Ignite Realtime, we’re excited to support this effort. Our projects, … ⌘ Read more
The XMPP Standards Foundation: Towards Secure and Interoperable Healthcare Chat
Supporting the development of the Dutch NTA 7532 standard with lessons from international practice
The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) is an independent, non-profit organization that promotes and advances open standards for real-time communication and collaboration. The XSF oversees the development of extensions to the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) and fost … ⌘ Read more
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@aelaraji, I mean to follow up here on the brief exchange we had on irc.mills.io, but I forgot. Never too late, so here it goes:
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@bender@twtxt.net Oh! It’s all good, I was planning on retiring my TheLounge instance anyways and will stick to connecting directly for the occasional chat when needed. Cheers! (Sorry for the belated reply.)
We had some gray soup with the occasional fine rain with strong wind gusts. Despite the bad forecast we took the train to Geislingen/Steige and strolled up to the Helfenstein castle ruin. All the colorful leaves were so beautiful, it didn’t matter that the sun was behind thick layers of clouds.
We then continued to the Ödenturm (lit. boring tower). By then the wind had picked up by quite a bit, just as the weatherman predicted. We were very positively surprised that the Swabian Jura Association had opened up the tower. Between May and October, the tower is typically only manned on Sundays and holidays between 10 and 17 o’clock. But yesterday was Saturday and no holiday. The lovely lady up there told us that they’re currently experimenting with opening up on Saturday, too, because there are some highly motivated members responsible for the tower.
We were the very first visitors on that day. Last Sunday, when the weather lived up to the weekday’s name, they counted 128 people up in the tower. Very impressive.
The wind gusts were howling around the tower. Luckily, there are glass windows. So, it was quite pleasant up in the tower room. Chatting with the tower guard for a while, we got even luckier: the sun came out! That was really awesome. The photos don’t do justice. As always, it looked way more stunning in person.
Thanks to all the volunteers who make it possible to enjoy the view from the thirty odd meters up there. That certainly made our day!
After signing the guestbook we climbed down the staircase and returned to the station and headed back. The train even arrived on time. What a great little trip!
https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-auf-die-burgruine-helfenstein-und-den-oedenturm-2025-10-25/
Libera Chat receives legal advice that the Online Safety Act does not apply to them
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The XMPP Standards Foundation: XMPP related Workshop at the Linux Day Torino 2025
Nicolas Vial will host the Quale sistema alternativo per il vostro cellulare? talk with a workshop that will demonstrate how to install and use XMPP for free from F-DROID, but will also give away free QR codes for Monocles Chat from [Google Play](https://play. … ⌘ Read more
Introducing a Richer ”docker model run” Experience
The command line is where developers live and breathe. A powerful and intuitive CLI can make the difference between a frustrating task and a joyful one. That’s why we’re excited to announce a major upgrade to the interactive chat experience in Docker Model Runner, our tool for running AI workloads locally. We’ve rolled out a… ⌘ Read more
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Anyone interested in starting up the monthly social calls we used to have? 👋
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@prologic@twtxt.net built it (as in banner reminder, etc.) and I will come! Joke side, I will join for 30-45 minutes each month, sure! No main topic, no pre-conceived themes, just folks getting together to chat and rant, or whatever. Count me in!
‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
Jason Beeferman and Emily Ngo, Staff Writers - Politico
Stephan: There is a very serious crisis in the United States involving male culture and psychology. It involves both men and boys; they are overwhelmingly White and Republican. Read this article, and you will see what these men and boys actually say amongst themselves. It is horrifying.
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ProcessOne: Europe’s Digital Sovereignty Paradox - “Chat Control” update
October 14th was supposed to be the day the European Council voted to mandate scanning of all private communications, encrypted or not.
The vote was pulled at the last minute.
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@klaxzy@klaxzy.net Yes, if Germany actually opposes this. But so far, there’s only one guy that said something on a press conference. He does speak for the “CDU” party, which is “in command” at the moment, but that’s about it. I don’t trust these people – not until I’ve actually seen them voting against Chat Control. 🥴
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@prologic@twtxt.net Where do I stand on “Chat Control”? How long of a response/rant do you want? 😅 It’s a disaster. As I understand it, they want to spy on me directly on my devices before encryption even happens – jfc, no, fuck off. And since there are so many devices, they want to automate the scanning, which is the worst idea you could possibly have.
German government comes out against Chat Control
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/citizen-protest-halts-chat-…
Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45506143
Points: 505
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My open letter, to the European Commission digital markets act team:
Hello,
I am joining other developers, concerned about Googles new plan, to approve every app and effectively destroy most of the competing 3rd party stores this way. The biggest one of these alternative stores, most known for their focus on user and developer privacy, already states, this would make it impossible for them to operate: https://f-droid.org/cs/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html
Even communities like the XDA forum, where new developers are often introduced to the world of Android development, would likely be strongly impacted, as making, publishing and installing Android apps is made less accessible.
I am not just writing on their behalf, I run a small website myself (https://thecanine.ueuo.com/), that both provides legal modifications, for some android apps - for example adding an amoled dark theme, to the most popular XMPP chat client for Android, or increasing one of Androids keyboard apps height. This all comes after Googles previous changes to the Android operating system, that prevent users from installing old apps (old to Google, can mean only a couple of months, without an update - https://developer.android.com/google/play/requirements/target-sdk and the target version gets increased every year). I rely on apps developed by a single developer, even for things like making the pixel art presented on my website and sideloading as a way to make these apps work, before developers can catch up to Google’s new requirements - if Google is allowed to slowly kill these options, us digital artists will soon lose the tools we need to create digital art.
Germany must stand firmly against client-side scanning in Chat Control [pdf]
Article URL: https://signal.org/blog/pdfs/germany-chat-control.pdf
Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45464921
Points: 586
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Erlang Solutions: Meet the Team: Adam Rack
Meet Adam Rack, our new Business Development Manager.
Adam is all about building high-performing teams, driving innovation, and delivering solutions that make a difference.
In our latest chat, he talks about what excites him in this new chapter, his vision for growing our DACH presence, and why sustainability and community matter to him.
A big welcome to the team! Coul … ⌘ Read morePlease don’t hate me today; I’m a bit grumpy and have too many reasons to be upset:
- 2 counts of pushing and trying to get the simplest things done at work (that for some reason are made more difficult than they should be)
- This whole Chat Control bullshit
- And some other person things going on that have been ongoing for 72 days and counting 🤬
ProcessOne: Why Europe’s ‘Chat Control’ Proposal Will Cripple European Communication Industry While Failing to Protect Children
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From memes to murder: How the ‘terminally online’ are radicalised
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JMP: Newsletter: (e)SIM nicknames, Cheogram Android updates, and Cheogram iOS alpha
Hi everyone!
Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update! (it’s been 7 months since the last one 😨)
In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client. Among other things, JMP has these features: Y … ⌘ Read more
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@zvava@twtxt.net I reckon there’s currently nobody working on v2. Which timezone are you in? Just post your questions here or head over to #yarn.social at libera.chat for a more realtime conversation via IRC.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de having to go to a gopher proxy to see a text document better served on readily available web servers… 🤭, but I digress. Verbatim text:
What's Missing from "Retro"
~softwarepagan
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You know, often, when I say I miss older ways of computing or
connecting online, people tell me "there's nothing stopping you
from doing that now!" and they are technicay correct in most cases
(though I can't, for example, chat with friends on MSN ever
again...) However, let me explain that while this type of thing can
*sort of* fill that hole in my heart, it isn't *the same.*
Say, for example, I wanted to connect with others over a BBS. This
wouldn't offer the same types of connections it used to. While
there are BBSes around with active users, they're no longer there
to discuss movies, Star Trek, D&D, games, etc. They're there to
discuss *BBSes.* The same can be said for Gopher, old-school forums
and all sorts of revival projects (such as Escargot, Spacehey,
etc.) Retrocomputing enthusiasts, while they have a variety of
interests, are often in these spaces to discuss the medium itself
and not other topics. This exists at a stark contrast from how
things were in the past, where a non-tech-inclined person may learn
the tech to connect with likeminded others (as I did as a
Zelda-obsessed kid.)
The same can be said of old media. People will say "well, nobody is
stopping you from watching old shows/movies now!" Again, they are
technically correct. I can go home right now and watch *Star Trek:
The Next Generation* to my heart's content. It will never again,
however, be current, or new. When something is new, it serves as a
shared cultural experience. Remember how "Game of Thrones* felt in
the mid-to-late 2010s? Yeah, that.
It's sad. I sustain myself on a mixed diet of old things, new
things, and new things intended for old millenials like me who like
old things. It can be bittersweet.
Of Pointlessware and CEOs
Had a moment, to check up on some of the companies, I stopped following, get to The Browser Company and see their newest product - it’s just Chrome, with an AI chat window pop-up and that’s it. Something Canary Chrome, come with already.
I see Theo from T3.gg, making fun of it on YouTube and promoting “his” product - an AI chat app, where you can choose from multiple models, by all the popular AI companies. Something I already have a worse version of, at work and I don’t even use it.
There’s also an interview, about the future of virtual keyboards, surely this is at least actually a real thing and not more pointless horse shit. I check the website of the keyboard SDK, and it’s around 20 identical apps, that just copy the same keyboard SDK/api and slap chatgpt features on top - in the App Store, these are surrounded by chatgpt clones, that just feed the users prompts, into the real thing and put ads, next to the answers.
WebSocket Wizardry: How a Forgotten Channel Let Me Sniff Private Chats in Real-Time ️♂️
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JMP: Mitigating MITMs in XMPP
In October 2023, Jabber.ru, “the largest Russian XMPP messaging service”, discovered that both Hetzner and Linode had been targeting them with Machine-In-The-Middle (MITM) attacks for up to 6 months. MITM attacks are when an unauthorised third party intercepts traffic intended for someone else. At the point of interception, the attacker can inspect and even modify that traffic. TLS was created to mitigate this; all communication between the two parties is encrypted, so the third party sees … ⌘ Read more
JMP: Mitigating MITMs in XMPP
In October 2023, Jabber.ru, “the largest Russian XMPP messaging service”, discovered that both Hetzner and Linode had been targeting them with Machine-In-The-Middle (MITM) attacks for up to 6 months. MITM attacks are when an unauthorised third party intercepts traffic intended for someone else. At the point of interception, the attacker can inspect and even modify that traffic. TLS was created to mitigate this; all communication between the two parties is encrypted, so the third party sees … ⌘ Read more
Gajim: Gajim 2.2.0
This release brings three new features: message retraction, blocking participants in group chats, and updated support for modern group chat avatars. Thank you for all your contributions!
Gajim 2.2 comes with support for retracting messages via XEP-0424: Message Retraction. This allow you to retract your messages, if you’ve mistakenly sent it to the wrong recipient or group chat. Please note that your counterpart needs to support … ⌘ Read more
GitHub for Beginners: Building a React App with GitHub Copilot
Follow along and build a frontend client using React and Copilot Chat.
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@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Thanks for consolidating a lot of good ideas. Especially how you have deiced to just extend the mention syntax for location-based treads. This might even be backward compatible with older (pre-yarn) clients.
What about using Z for UTC +00:00- is that allowed in your specs?
Regarding url = I would suggest to only allow one and the maybe add url_old = or url_alt = !?
I’m still not a fan of a DM feature, even thou it helps that i have now been split out into a separate feed file. Instead if would suggest a contact = field for where people can put an email or other id/link for an established chat protocol like signal or matrix.
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Bloody WhatsApp, bloody chat apps on smartphones, I’m going nuts. If you want to TYPE, use a device WITH A KEYBOARD. Don’t send me useless undecipherable gibberish. FFS!
Godot Game Engine Discord Adds Mandatory “Consent to Being Recorded” for Audio Chats
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Mandated use of AI at work
Although I also use AI for some features on this blog and sometimes chat with some AI agent (whether it’s ChatGPT, Claude, Microsoft Copilot or GitHub Copilot), I have mixed feelings about its mandated use at work (Shopify is just one company doing it). ⌘ Read more
Nintendo Switch 2 announced for a June 5 launch
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Kaidan: Kaidan 0.12.1: Voice Message and Password Change Fixes
Kaidan 0.12.1 fixes some bugs.
Have a look at the changelog for more details.
Bugfixes:
- Do not highlight unpinned chats when pinned chat is moved (melvo)
- Fix deleting/sending voice messages (melvo)
- Fix crash during login (melvo)
- Fix opening chat again after going back to chat list on narrow window (melvo)
- Increase tool bar height to fix avatar not being recognizable (melvo)
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Mathieu Pasquet: Poezio 0.15 / 0.15.1
About three years since the last version, poezio 0.15 (and 0.15.1 to address
a small packaging mishap, version numbers are cheap) was released yesterday!
Poezio is a terminal-based XMPP client which aims to replicate the
feeling of terminal-based IRC clients such as irssi or weechat; to
this end, poezio originally only supported multi-user chats.
Not a lot this time around… Maybe next time?
- A new
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