@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org āAdvancedā, well, probably more āmatureā. There arenāt a ton of crazy features and that icon thing is the largest code addition in the last 10 years. %)
Speaking of OS/2 ⦠I just realized that Windows 3.x didnāt have icons, either. If Iām not mistaken, this only got added in Windows 95. In other words, OS/2 had this feature before Windows did, because at least OS/2 2.1 from 1993 had icons. Who would have thunk.
(Now I kind of want to know which system really introduced this feature.)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, huh, maybe it was just my GNOME 2 themes back then that didnāt show the icon. š¤
I like the looks of your window manager. Thatās using Wayland, right?
Oh, no. Itās still X11. All my recent Wayland comments resulted from me trying to switch, but I think itās still too early. Being unable to use QEMU (because it canāt capture the mouse pointer) is a pretty big blocker for me. This is completely broken, it just happens to be unnoticeable with modern guest OSes, so itās probably not a priority for devs.
(Not to mention that I would have to fork and substantially extend dwl in order to āreplicateā my X11 WM. And then, after having done that, Iād have to follow upstream Wayland development, for which I donāt have the resources. Things would need to slow down before I can do that.)
all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1
Heh. Iāve been using tiling WMs for ~15 years now, so itās actually kind of refreshing to see something different for a change. š
Probably close to the older Windowses.
That particular theme is a ripoff of OS/2 Warp 3:
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We ran some similar brownish color scheme (donāt recall its name) on Win95 or Win98
Oh god. Yeah, I wasnāt a fan of those, either. š„“
@movq@www.uninformativ.de According to this screenshot, KDE still shows good old application icons:
And GNOME used to have them, too:
I like the looks of your window manager. Thatās using Wayland, right? The only thing on this screenshot to critique is all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1 At least the file browser. 8-)
This drives me nuts when my workmates share their screens. I really donāt get it how people can work like that. You canāt even read the whole line in the IDE or log viewer with all the expanded side bars. And then thereās 200 pixels on the left and another 300 pixels on the right where the desktop wallpaper shows. Gnaa! Thereās the other extreme end when somebody shares their ultra wide screen and I just have a āregularishā 16:10 monitor and donāt see shit, because itās resized way too tiny to fit my width. Good times. :-D
Sorry for going off on a tangent here. :-) Back to your WM: It has the right mix of being subtle and still similar to motif. Probably close to the older Windowses. My memory doesnāt serve me well, but I think they actually got it fairly good in my opinion. Your purple active window title looks killer. It just fits so well. This brown one (
) gives me also classic vibes. Awww. We ran some similar brownish color scheme (donāt recall its name) on Win95 or Win98 for some time on the family computer. I remember other people visting us not liking these colors. :-D@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org True, at least old versions of KDE had icons:

GNOME, on the other hand, didnāt, at least to my old screenshots from 2007:
I switched to Linux in 2007 and no window manager I used since then had icons, apparently. Crazy. An icon-less existence for 18 years. (But yeah, everything is keyboard-driven here as well and there are no buttons here, either.)
Anyway, my draft is making progress:

I do like this look. š
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I havenāt used KDE or GNOME for ages, but Iām sure KDE at least used to show application icons in the title bars. They proabably still do. But then, one could argue that KDE is mimicking Windows. I never thought like that, I always found KDE way superior, because I was able to configure it like a madman.
In i3, I donāt have any application icons. I remember missing them at the beginning. But I donāt even have the classical minimize, maximize and close buttons in the title bar either. Just the title. Being mostly keyboard driven and a tiling window manager, these buttons are not super useful, anyway.
Hereās an example of X11/Xlib being old and archaic.
X11 knows the data type ācardinalā. For example, the window property _NET_WM_ICON (which holds image data for icons) is an array of ācardinalā. I am already not really familiar with that word and Iām assuming that it comes from mathematics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number
(It could also be a bird, but probably not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinalidae)
We would probably call this an āintegerā today.
EWMH says that icons are arrays of cardinals and that theyāre 32-bit numbers:
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest-single/#id-1.6.13
So itās something like 0x11223344 with 0x11 being the alpha channel, 0x22 is red, and so on.
You would assume that, when you retrieve such an array from the X11 server, youād get an array of uint32_t, right?
Nope.
Xlib is so old, they use char for 8-bit stuff, short int for 16-bit, and long int for 32-bit:
That is congruent with the general C data types, so it does make sense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_data_types
Now the funny thing is, on modern x86_64, the type long int is actually 64 bits wide.
The result is that every pixel in a Pixmap, for example, is twice as large in memory as it would need to be. Just because Xlib uses long int, because uint32_t didnāt exist, yet.
And this is something that I wouldnāt know how to fix without breaking clients.
I was drafting support for showing āapplication iconsā in my window manager, i.e. the Firefox icon in the titlebar:

Then I realized: Wait a minute, lots of applications donāt set an icon? And lots of other window managers donāt show these icons, either? Openbox, pekwm, Xfce, fvwm, no icons.
Looks like macOS doesnāt show them, either?!
Has this grown out of fashion? Is this purely a Windows / OS/2 thing?
new icon! the girl is manon from KATSEYE because iām mega obsessed with them
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My icon on here will never not crack me up. Itās so low quality, it feels like a facebook mom meme. Perfect for random corners of the indie web.
new icon! art is by rian gonzales, one of my fave comic artists :)
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Iām also thinking of adding eye-off icon next to every Twt that, when clicked, hides that feed (tooltip: āHide this feedā). This would work with the filters as a ātemporary additive filterā to restrict/control the current view.
ya girlās officially a credited code contributor for the biggest fanfiction site in the world! (i did the gif icon fix) https://archiveofourown.org/admin_posts/31720
i started a little thing on my dreamwidth and called it a flash prompt box. basically itās a limited time thing where people can prompt me for stuff iām offering, like short fanfiction, photoshop-edited user icons, music recs, and a bit more! iām having sooo much fun with it so far itās been a blast just making stuff for friends :)
also more friends are making their own posts with the same concept which is SO cool to see
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@bender@twtxt.net very true in both regards!!! <333 happy to see you too, i missed your silly bender icon hahha. my times could be better but things will improve i am sure of it
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@bender@twtxt.net LMAOOOO ICONIC
@bender@twtxt.net itās iconic tbh
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anyway re: girl doxxing for wonyoung. this is real wonyoungism. i can only dream of being that iconic. for context wonyoung gets so much hate and she is literally my age and has been doing this idol shit since she was 13 and has gotten called all sorts of horrible things since then because people are jealous of her. so imo doxxing in her name is OK and justified i DONāT CARE there are youtubers in south korea who have made a career out of hating on her and are now getting sued by her for defamation
i could do anything for wonyoung but nothing will ever be as cool and iconic as the 13 year old daughter of the baidu vice president who doxxed over 100 people during an argument for hating on wonyoung. Absolute icon
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@suitechic@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz THANK YOUUU i do my best with icons and superlove!!!
It looks AWESOME. Did you do the color grading yourself? Or is it an icon someone else made
new icon from a very dark comic mini series that just came out (doll parts by luana vecchio
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