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In-reply-to » @lyse “Silo de Pisa” 😂. And 32, oh my! Loving rain, just as loving rice, is life. Rain is life, rice is life. I am glad you enjoyed it for you, and me! I would have hiked with you, under the rain, not a single complaint. After all, it’s only water!

@bender@twtxt.net Yeah, very compliant electronical installation. The rain cannot harm it as the ports all face down!! :-D

As long as oneself remains fairly dry, it’s not a problem. But I find it annoying when the wet clothes rub against the skin everywhere.

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In-reply-to » 👋 Looking for other interested folks to continue to evolve the development of Salty.im 🙏 I've been hard™ at work on the v2 branch and @doesnm.p.psf.lt has been incredibly helpful so far. Be great ot have a few more folks to join us, some of the v2 highlights include:

@bender@twtxt.net Here is a properly formatted version of your message:

Not yet — but that’s probably a good idea.

Instructions:

  1. Clone the repository
git clone https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim.git
cd saltyim
  1. Check out the v2 branch
git checkout v2
  1. Build and install the CLI/TUI
make DESTDIR=$HOME/bin install

After installation, run:

salty-chat

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👋 Looking for other interested folks to continue to evolve the development of Salty.im 🙏 I’ve been hard™ at work on the v2 branch and @doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt has been incredibly helpful so far. Be great ot have a few more folks to join us, some of the v2 highlights include:

  • Double Ratchet by default.
  • Group Chat (sender/client fan-out for now)
  • Much better TUI with background agent.
  • Mobile App coming soon™ (iOS in progress, Android next, same codebase)

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In-reply-to » It's raining and raining and raining and raining. I had hoped my mate canceled the hike today. But he didn't. He showed up. So, off we went to the Staufeneck Castle Ruin after having a lunch first. The rain drizzling on the umbrella was very nice and I was very glad that he dragged me outside.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org “Silo de Pisa” 😂. And 32, oh my! Loving rain, just as loving rice, is life. Rain is life, rice is life. I am glad you enjoyed it for you, and me! I would have hiked with you, under the rain, not a single complaint. After all, it’s only water!

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In-reply-to » Been missing you, friends! I hope life's been treating you well. What did I miss?

@bender@twtxt.net Sweet! So glad that Twtxt still lives, and that everyone’s been keeping busy. My main computer is broken, It’ll take me some time to setup jenny on the R-pi and try to catch-up.

Have a blessed week-end everyone!

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In-reply-to » Been missing you, friends! I hope life's been treating you well. What did I miss?

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com hey, hey! I saw you tinkering with ActivityPub, so I know you were well.

Glad to have you back here! No much has happened on twtxt.net-world. @prologic@twtxt.net is quite busy with large language models, and seeking further independence through capitalistic ways. @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org continues dazzling us with his clicks, @movq@www.uninformativ.de brings us interesting music, videos to see, and a sprinkle of home made computing here and there, and me… well, I continue bending (or trying to) things! 😂

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In-reply-to » @lyse The sun makes it look nice and cosy and warm, but it wasn’t, right? 😅

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’ve got the same problem that you had the other day: finding past temperature data. But yeah, it looked much warmer than it actually was. Maybe 5°C? Possibly less when I found myself in the snow- and rainstorm in the end.

With the wind, my fingers were frozen. I should have worn gloves. Without them, I could only put my hands in the pockets of my jacket. That didn’t help much, though, because I frequently stopped to take yet another photo, so they cooled off again right away. :-D

Balancing the big/long, closed umbrella under my arm while I had my hands burried was also a little tricky.

First world problems. :-)

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@abucci@anthony.buc.ci coined the term “failscene”:

https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1771250567.039684

I wonder about using “failscene” to describe the current slate of AI tools and demos. In contrast with the demoscene, which is about getting very low powered computers to do cool things you wouldn’t expect them to be able to do, the failscene is about getting very high powered computers to fail at doing boring things we already know how to do without them. Plus you can stylize it fAIlscene if you’re inclined to.

I love it.

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In-reply-to » @lyse They certainly don’t. 🫤

@movq@www.uninformativ.de There are always some folks who would appreciate that. But I fear they are the minority. The rest just doesn’t give a shit.

The selfcontradiction is that those who proudly use and promote AI also claim to be sustainable and green and so on. I’ve no clue how this is not considered fraud, but there we are.

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In-reply-to » @lyse Nice talk indeed.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Our ads are one of these rubbish ones, unfortunately. They just speak about “an attractive salary”. I reckon I will tell my boss about this talk tomorrow (even though I doubt that any of them are from our department).

I’ve got the impression that salary is amongst the most top secret topics in Germany in general. My conspiracy theory is that companies don’t put any numbers in job ads because that would just reveal that most employees are underpaid.

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In-reply-to » A mate just recommended this German talk why people don't wanna work at your company: https://media.ccc.de/v/froscon2025-3321-eseskaemwarumguteleutenichtbeieucharbeiten_wollen It's really good. I fully agree with most parts.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Nice talk indeed.

Interesting to see that his ideal job ad talks more about the company than the required qualifications of the candidates. That alone is what 99% of companies get wrong. They just have a long list of “you must know these 500 things”, yeah, great, goodbye then. 🤷‍♀️

Just checked our job ads, some of them actually do list the salary. I’m surprised. 🤔

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In-reply-to » Okay, so the funniest thing that has happened at work in the realm of AI so far is this:

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org They certainly don’t. 🫤

Had an idea earlier: How about going all in on sustainability and saving money/energy, so how about telling your customers “AI is a bad idea $because_long_list_of_reasons, here are our alternatives, you’ll thank us in 5 years”? (I bet the customers wouldn’t listen either … 🙄)

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In-reply-to » @lyse I just watched this. And whilst it's very good and insightful, good history of MySQL and how Martin helped built a good solid Open Source + Commercial model, I'm not seeing the "why people don’t wanna work at your company" bit? What am I missing? 🤔 In any case, he does talk to great length on the importance of Culture and the insane notion of "centrlaised office working", which I 100% agree with.

@prologic@twtxt.net he didn’t. The embedded video show the speaker he was referencing to, on the German video.

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In-reply-to » @lyse I just watched this. And whilst it's very good and insightful, good history of MySQL and how Martin helped built a good solid Open Source + Commercial model, I'm not seeing the "why people don’t wanna work at your company" bit? What am I missing? 🤔 In any case, he does talk to great length on the importance of Culture and the insane notion of "centrlaised office working", which I 100% agree with.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh! 🤔 Did you link the wrong video or something? 🤔

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In-reply-to » @lyse I just watched this. And whilst it's very good and insightful, good history of MySQL and how Martin helped built a good solid Open Source + Commercial model, I'm not seeing the "why people don’t wanna work at your company" bit? What am I missing? 🤔 In any case, he does talk to great length on the importance of Culture and the insane notion of "centrlaised office working", which I 100% agree with.

@prologic@twtxt.net Sorry if I raised the wrong hope. Only the German talk is about the “why good people don’t want to work at your company” subject. Among the key points are the absolutely terrible job adverts, team leads not themselves looking for people to hire but letting other dudes do that, company cultures and communication.

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In-reply-to » A mate just recommended this German talk why people don't wanna work at your company: https://media.ccc.de/v/froscon2025-3321-eseskaemwarumguteleutenichtbeieucharbeiten_wollen It's really good. I fully agree with most parts.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I just watched this. And whilst it’s very good and insightful, good history of MySQL and how Martin helped built a good solid Open Source + Commercial model, I’m not seeing the “why people don’t wanna work at your company” bit? What am I missing? 🤔 In any case, he does talk to great length on the importance of Culture and the insane notion of “centrlaised office working”, which I 100% agree with.

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In-reply-to » @lyse … at least this story was entertaining to read. 😅 If only Firefox’s storage format wasn’t so convoluted, you could have just shut it down and removed all the unwanted tabs. 🫤

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I also had to laugh. :-D And that’s what crossed my mind for a splitsecond, too. Two decades ago or so, that would have worked. But these days are long over. Wasn’t it even an INI file or something like that?

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Well it’s ~2am and I finally defeated the AI player in a game of Frontier Crown 👑 – On that note I’m now going to bed, I’ve made so many improvements to the aesthetics (UX) of the game, the mechanics, and it’s now quite nicely playable 👌 G’night! 😴

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In-reply-to » Fuck me dead! I accidentally confused an HTML file for a YAML file and manually opened it in my browser. Unfortunately, I clicked on the OK button of the popped up dialog a bit too fast, it just caught me off guard. It asked which program to open the YAML file in. Of course Firefox thought that it could handle that and suggested itself by default. Conveniently, the "don't prompt me again and always use this selection from now on" checkbox was enabled.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org … at least this story was entertaining to read. 😅 If only Firefox’s storage format wasn’t so convoluted, you could have just shut it down and removed all the unwanted tabs. 🫤

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In-reply-to » I spent the day today integrating @xuu's double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all "just works"™ and I'm quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

@bender@twtxt.net Aye aye capt’n 😅

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In-reply-to » I spent the day today integrating @xuu's double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all "just works"™ and I'm quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

@prologic@twtxt.net I will give it a try when it works flawlessly. ☺️ Then I will need people to interact with, otherwise it’s a “mute” case. 🤭

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In-reply-to » I spent the day today integrating @xuu's double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all "just works"™ and I'm quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

@bender@twtxt.net Whwn do i see you start to use Salty IM more? 😅

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In-reply-to » I spent the day today integrating @xuu's double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all "just works"™ and I'm quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

@prologic@twtxt.net keep going, keep going!

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In-reply-to » Slow progress: My hex editor now has an info panel that shows what’s under the cursor. https://movq.de/v/f9586ec65c/s.png

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

I can’t remember if the hex viewer back then had these options. Don’t even recall what software that was. :-)

The one that I used during my Windows 95 days was “Hex Workshop”. It had similar features, just not as promimently displayed. It shows them down there in the statusline as “Value”:

Newer versions can probably do more, haven’t checked. 😅 (Assuming this program still exists.)

Apart from selecting text to copy into the clipboard. But that probably has the potential for trouble and interference with button clicks, etc.

Yeah, that’s a big problem: Once you activate mouse mode in the terminal, the terminal loses the ability to select text. 😞 You’d either have to emulate that in the program itself (like Vim does) or give the user an easy way to turn mouse support on/off during runtime.

How did the startup times develop?

They’re pretty stable at around 230 ms on my old NUC. It’s just fast enough so that it doesn’t annoy me.

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In-reply-to » I spent the day today integrating @xuu's double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all "just works"™ and I'm quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

Some pretty pics to illustrate the much improved reference Salty.im client, salty-chat.

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I spent the day today integrating @xuu@txt.sour.is’s double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all “just works”™ and I’m quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp

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In-reply-to » Slow progress: My hex editor now has an info panel that shows what’s under the cursor. https://movq.de/v/f9586ec65c/s.png

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Nice, it’s coming together! Despite it being ages ago that I used a hex editor or viewer, these different representations of information appear very handy to me. If I had to mess around on binary formats, I’d definitely appreciate them. I can’t remember if the hex viewer back then had these options. Don’t even recall what software that was. :-)

I, too, only very, very rarely use the mouse in the terminal. Apart from selecting text to copy into the clipboard. But that probably has the potential for trouble and interference with button clicks, etc. If one isn’t careful.

How did the startup times develop?

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In-reply-to » It was so great going to the sauna again, we were looking forward to that the whole week. :-) It's been over a year, holy cow, time flies. We definitely have to pick up on that tradition again, that's for sure.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Sauna is awesome – if it wasn’t for other people. 🤣 A little mökki in Finland with a private sauna, that would be it.

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