@fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com Some of my friends in college were really excited to actually find other fellow nerds in college willing to engage in a key signing party. They used it to send like 3 or 4 inconsequential emails and then just gave up on it.

Oh man this is my first real social weekend in a long time. Thanks to COVID it’s like I’m flexing disused muscles.

Hey @manton I got this email this morning from name.com – Just wondering if I could have my prologic.blog domain transferred to me? 🤔 Whilst I have enjoyed using my micro.blog service I’d like to move away off of micro.blog and host my own blog, which I intend to use my own static tool for.

Thank you for providing such a great service over the years I’ve used micro.blog 🙇‍♂️

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@fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com sorry. the fix was around having a mention in parenthesis like (yo @prologic@twtxt.net)

@xuu@txt.sour.is Well, the point is, things do not work like this.

Actually in nano you would have to ctrl-k ctrl-k ctrl-x y to discard your reply.

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@adi@f.adi.onl Ugh sorry for not replying. If the file list is dynamic, usually you use something like autoconf to generate the Makefile. I’ve also used wildcards in the past and that works okay. You should be able to use shell commands to populate the file list.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah like normally I’m just a little annoyed and just say “whatever” and shrug it off, but come on I am searching for emojis here. Do you really need to harvest my user data for what is essentially a fuzzy search in the Unicode table?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de My workflow is as follows.

I hit “reply” hotkey and my editor comes up.

With or without writing something I close my editor without saving the content.

Of course I close it by C-x C-c, not by :q! ;-)

Jenny finds the temp file unchanged, e.g. it’s content is the same as it was when my editor was started. I would like that jenny discards the reply then.

Autosaving is no problem either. Real editors do this to a temporary (kind of backup) file. Only in case of a crash that file is consulted and the user is asked if she would like to continue with that stored content.

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de Another feature request: sometimes I start writing a twt but then would like to discard it. It would be great if jeny could detect that I did not wrote (or saved) anything and then discards the twt instead of creating an “empty” one.

@prologic@twtxt.net like parsing HTML with regex.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I just observed unexpected old twts coming back.

It looks like lasttwts is reset to -5364619200.0 every time no new content wasfetched for example if if-modified-since did not produce new twts?

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de Ha, but when you control lastmods, lastseen and lasttwts it’s easy to test.

Works like a charm!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I just pulled it, works like a charm (as expected) ;-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Updated. Will it be possible for the subject be moved at the begining instead (like Yarn and tt do)?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I’m not a Python programmer, so please bear with me.
The doc about encodings does also mention:

If you require a different encoding, you can manually set the Response.encoding property

Wouldn’t that be a one liner like (Ruby example)?

'some text'.force_encoding('utf-8')

I understand that you do not want to interfere with requests. On the other hand we know that received data must be utf-8 (by twtxt spec) and it does burden “publishers” to somehow add charset property to content-type header. But again I’m not sure what “the right thing to do” ™ is.

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de
Exactly, you see correct UTF-8 encoded version (even with content-type: text/plain leaving out charset declaration).

After following utf8test twtxt myself I now see that jenny does not handle it as UTF-8 when charset is missing from HTTP header, just like @quark@ferengi.one has observed.

So should jenny treat twtxt files always as UTF-8 encoded? I’m not sure about this.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de

Don’t miss step 0 (I should have made this a separate point): having a meta header promising appending twts with strictly monotonically increasing timestamps.

(Also, I’d first like to see the pagination thingy implemented.)

In jenny I would like to see “don’t process previously fetched twts” AKA “Allow the user to archive/delete old twts” feature implemented ;-)

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My thoughts about range requests

Additionally to pagination also range request should be used to reduce traffic.

I understand that there are corner cases making this a complicated matter.

I would like to see a meta header saying that the given twtxt is append only with increasing timestamps so that a simple strategy can detect valid content fetched per range request.

1. read meta part per range request
   
2. read last fetched twt at expected range (as known from last fetch)
   
3. if fetched content starts with expected twt then process rest of data
   
4. if fetched content doesn’t start with expected twt discard all and fall back to fetching whole twtxt
   

Pagination (e.g. archiving old content in a different file) will lead to point 4.

Of course especially pods should support range requests, correct @prologic@twtxt.net?

My thoughts about pagination (paging)

Following the discussion about pagination (paging) I think that’s the right thing to do.

Fetching the same content again and again with only a marginal portion of actually new twts is unbearable and does not scale in any way. It’s not only a waste of bandwidth but with increasing number of fetchers it will also become a problem for pods to serve all requests.

Because it’s so easy to implement and simple to understand, splitting twtxt file in parts with next and prev pointers seems a really amazing solution.

As in RFC5005 there should also be a meta header pointing to the main URL, e.g. current or baseurl or something like that. This way hashes can calculated correctly even for archived twts.

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• 2 or 2.5 cups of bitter greens.
  
• 1 cup of your favourite protein (or an egg), grilled, or fried with a little of olive oil.
  
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• No added sugars. If it is sweet, make it have fibre.
  
• No added salt (or very little and ionised), as salt is everywhere.
  

Related, I tried wild rice for the first time yesterday. It was different, in a good way.

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@prologic@twtxt.net
Thank you, that’s the correct one.

Still I have this in my logs (first access of “eleven” by yarnd):

ip.ip.ip.ip - - [21/Oct/2021:20:05:36 +0000] “GET /eleven.txt HTTP/2.0” 200 344 “-” “yarnd/0.2.0@46bea3f (Pod: twtxt.net Support: https://twtxt.net/support)”
ip.ip.ip.ip - - [21/Oct/2021:20:05:36 +0000] “HEAD /avatar.png HTTP/2.0” 200 0 “-” “yarnd/0.2.0@46bea3f (Pod: twtxt.net Support: https://twtxt.net/support)”

And I guess without avatar.png sitting there I would have seen even more requests like /eleven.txt/avatar.png.

I’ve copied stackeffect.png to avatar.png to make yarnd happy when accessing stackeffect.txt.

So in this setup yarnd fetched eleven.txt along with avatar.png which belongs to another twtxt. This feels buggy.

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Aha! Cool! Not just deleting, but proceeding as if the twt is going to be send. If I :q! on vi it will add an empty line. If, instead, I go :x like I normally do, it works as you said—and as I wanted it. Thanks!

@prologic@twtxt.net
Sounds like a good plan. It is, of course, up to the Master Crafter. 😋

https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/ it does not look like there is a quick way to download a mbox archive of these mailing lists.

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de What I would really like to see if jenny could use HTTP range requests to fetch only new content.

E.g. it could refetch only last twtext line of last request to make sure it starts off at correct position.

I guess there are twtxt files that only grow, then this will save a lot bandwidth over time.

For twtxt files that “forget” older content this situation would be detected and as a fallback the whole twtxt file could then be fetched.

@prologic@twtxt.net I would like to see “header” lines in twtxt.txt parsed.

Personally I started looking at some twtxt files with curl and saw information about avatar images.

I assumed that to be sort of standard and mentioned my avatar image in my stackeffect.txt. But it was not “avatar.png”.

Later I saw in logfiles that the info was totally ignored and instead several “avatar.png” locations were tried by the pulling side.

When information in “header” of twtxt file were respected one could easily change avatar file to one with a new filename and there would be no caching problem.

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