@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t get your objection. dockerd is 96M and has to run all the time. You can’t use docker without it running, so you have to count both. docker + dockerd is 131M, which is over 3x the size of podman. Plus you have this daemon running all the time, which eats system resources podman doesn’t use, and docker fucks with your network configuration right on install, which podman doesn’t do unless you tell it to.

That’s way fat as far as I’m concerned.

As far as corporate goes, podman is free and open source software, the end. docker is a company with a pricing model. It was founded as a startup, which suggests to me that, like almost all startups, they are seeking an exit and if they ever face troubles in generating that exit they’ll throw out all niceties and abuse their users (see Reddit, the drama with spyware in Audacity, 10,000 other examples). Sure you can use it free for many purposes, and the container bits are open source, but that doesn’t change that it’s always been a corporate entity, that they can change their policies at any time, that they can spy on you if they want, etc etc etc.

That’s way too corporate as far as I’m concerned.

I mean, all of this might not matter to you, and that’s fine! Nothing wrong with that. But you can’t have an alternate reality–these things I said are just facts. You can find them on Wikipedia or docker.com for that matter.

@prologic@twtxt.net I had a feeling my container was not running remotely. It was too crisp.

podman is definitely capable of it. I’ve never used those features though so I’d have to play around with it awhile to understand how it works and then maybe I’d have a better idea of whether it’s possible to get it to work with cas.run.

There’s a podman-specific way of allowing remote container execution that wouldn’t be too hard to support alongside docker if you wanted to go that route. Personally I don’t use docker–too fat, too corporate. podman is lightweight and does virtually everything I’d want to use docker to do.

@prologic@twtxt.net @jmjl@tilde.green
It looks like there’s a podman issue for adding the context subcommand that docker has. Currently podman does not have this subcommand, although this comment has a translation to podman commands that are similar-ish.

It looks like that’s all you need to do to support podman right now! Though I’m not 100% sure the containers I tried really are running remotely. Details below.

I manually edited the shell script that cas.run add returns, changing all the docker commands to podman commands. Specifically, I put alias docker=podman at the top so the check for docker would pass, and then I replaced the last two lines of the script with these:

podman system connection add cas  "host=tcp://cas.run..."
podman system connection default cas

(that … after cas.run is a bunch of connection-specific stuff)

I ran the script and it exited with no output. It did create a connection named “cas”, and made that the default. I’m not super steeped in how podman works but I believe that’s what you need to do to get podman to run containers remotely.

I ran some containers using podman and I think they are running remotely but I don’t know the right juju to verify. It looks right though!

This means you could probably make minor modifications to the generated shell script to support podman. Maybe when the check for docker fails, check for podman, and then later in the script use the podman equivalents to the docker context commands.

@prologic@twtxt.net hmm, now I get this:

$ ssh -p 2222 -i PRIVATE_GITHUB_KEY GITHUB_USERNAME@cas.run add | sh
sh: 135: docker: not found

The quickstart says:

## Quick Start

  ssh -p 2222 cas.run add | sh

so that’s why I tried this command (I had to modify it with my key and username like before)

Edit: 🤦‍♂ and that’s becasue I don’t have docker on this machine. Sorry about that, false alarm.

@prologic@twtxt.net aha, thank you, that got me unjammed.

Turns out I thought I had an SSH key set up in github, but github didn’t agree with me. So, I re-added the key.

I also had to modify the command slightly to:

ssh -p 2222 -i PRIVATE_GITHUB_KEY GITHUB_USERNAME@cas.run help

since I generate app-specific keypairs and need to specify that for ssh and I haven’t configured it to magically choose the key so I have to specify it in the command line.

Anyhow, that did it. Thanks!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de that is soo much traffic. I don’t think I have ever broken 1TB /mo across my VMS ever.

@prologic@twtxt.net was this in reply to a different thread? Or maybe a hash collision?

hello @coreybag@anthony.buc.ci please post something that demonstrates you’re a human being and not a bot; otherwise I’m afraid I’ll have to delete your account!

@marado@twtxt.net hahaha

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@prologic@twtxt.net so what is the command to use? I did ssh -p 2222 GITHUB_USERNAME@cas.run help but that gives the same error. There’s something missing here.

@prologic@twtxt.net I do, but you didn’t specify in your twt that you needed to use a github account. I copy pasted the ssh command you posted verbatim!

@prologic@twtxt.net

# ssh -p 2222 cas.run help                                                                                                                                                
The authenticity of host '[cas.run]:2222 ([139.180.180.214]:2222)' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is SHA256:i5txciMMbXu2fbB4w/vnElNSpasFcPP9fBp52+Avdbg.
This key is not known by any other names
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no/[fingerprint])? yes
Warning: Permanently added '[cas.run]:2222' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
abucci@cas.run: Permission denied (publickey).

@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net hello @prologic@twtxt.net here’s another feed that’s spewing multiple copies of the same post. This one above is repeated 8 times. @awesome-scala-weekly@feeds.twtxt.net now has 13 copies of each post every week. This definitely looks like a bug in whatever code is generating these feeds, because the source feeds don’t have multiple copies of the original posts:

• Has 8 copies of the above post: https://feeds.twtxt.net/New_scientist/twtxt.txt
  
• Has only 1 copy of the above post: https://www.newscientist.com/feed/home/
  

I forget whether I filed an issue on this before, but can you tell me where I should do that?

@prologic@twtxt.net laughs.. I’m in danger.

@prologic@twtxt.net the confusion over these words is rampant 🤦‍♂️

@Planet_Jabber_XMPP@feeds.twtxt.net

The benefits of blockchain implementation across multiple sectors are well-documented

WTF are you talking about? The only thing well-documented about “the blockchain” is that it sucks and its primary use case is creating Ponzi schemes.

@prologic@twtxt.net are you trying to reinvent cloud computing?!?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de oof that’s bad

@prologic@twtxt.net hmmm, I might.

@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net 😐

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no happy birthday!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @mckinley@twtxt.net I believe the resurgence in availability of municipal WiFi is largely driven by the surveillance capabilities it offers. Every person who has WiFi enabled on their phone can be tracked throughout the city as their phones ping various base stations; a lot of folks aren’t aware of just how much information can be slurped out of a phone that isn’t locked down just from its WiFi pings. I know this happens in Toronto, and I was familiar with a startup in Massachusetts that based its business model on this very concept. I can only assume it’s widespread in the US if not throughout the Western world.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org this is excellent advice that I will almost surely heed!

@phoronix@feeds.twtxt.net

For those fond of the COBOL programming language

😆

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, do you have an example of conf.json in which I can see all the configuration possibilities? Thanks!

@prologic@twtxt.net I’ll second this–I find it very hard to read too.

@prologic@twtxt.net I prefer online radio because of the large number of stations from all over the world :-)

@prologic@twtxt.net Well, you can mute or block individual users, and you can mute conversations too. I think the tools for controlling your interactions aren’t so bad (they could definitely be improved ofc). And in my case, I was replying to something this person said, so it wasn’t outrageous for his reply to be pushed to me. Mostly, I was sad to see how quickly the conversation went bad. I thought I was offering something relatively uncontroversial, and actually I was just agreeing with and amplifying something another person had already said.

@prologic@twtxt.net attacking the person, not the idea. It’d be like if you said “yarn is better than mastodon because it isn’t push based” and someone who disagreed with you said “well you think that because you’re an idiot” or something like that.

@prologic@twtxt.net when will we have Y coin, the decentralized crypto money of yarn social???

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no “it might provoke Russia”

@prologic@twtxt.net do they censor you???

@prologic@twtxt.net It was super useful if you needed to do the sorts of things it did. I’m pretty sad.

At its core was Sage, a computational mathematics system, and their own version of Jupyter notebooks. So, you could do all kinds of different math stuff in a notebook environment and share that with people. But on top of that, there was a chat system, a collaborative editing system, a course management system (so if you were teaching a class using it you could keep track of students, assignments, grades, that sort of thing), and a bunch of other stuff I never used. It all ran in a linux container with python/conda as a base, so you could also drop to a terminal, install stuff in the container, and run X11 applications in the same environment. I never taught a class with it but I used to use it semi-regularly to experiment with ideas.

@prologic@twtxt.net wow! The place to go for whiteboard tech is mills.io.

That stinks about Excalidraw. they’ve been saying that (working on adding collab/self hosting) for over a year.

@xuu@txt.sour.is hahaha!

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci excellent work on embedding the YO in Hello

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oh wow nice, I got it running with no trouble:

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@prologic@twtxt.net I see what you mean about tldraw. I looked at their github repository and it seems like they are distributing it as an npm package for people who want to include a whiteboard in their Javascript-based frontend. I didn’t see a way to just launch the thing.

I have half a mind to write a little scala frontend that sets up one of these, since scalajs makes it very easy to use these Javascript web component things while making it look like you’re writing scala.

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m a big fan of https://excalidraw.com , especially the collaborative editing feature, but I don’t think you can self-host it 👎

@prologic@twtxt.net whoa that’s so cool!

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I’m playing around with snac2, which I think @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no mentioned on here, and I have to say it’s extremely easy to set up and it’s been pretty straightforward so far. I wanted to experiment with having a presence on the Fediverse without going through the process of picking Mastodon vs. Gnu Social vs. Friendica vs. …, and I wanted to self-host instead of picking an instance of one of those. For now I’m abucci@buc.ci, but no guarantees that will remain stable; I’m just testing for the time being.

@prologic@twtxt.net Couldn’t agree more

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no @prologic@twtxt.net seconded, that would definitely be nice

I think for me twtxt in the terminal has a better feel than the www twtxt

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci @prologic@twtxt.net neat.. I saw this one quite a while ago. it is strictly line of sight and blocked by walls or things. The use cases were to have it integrated in the lights in a room and provide super fast connections to devices in an office or coffee shop.

https://youtu.be/AKvvEqm9Nv4

@prologic@twtxt.net

• 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi: long range, can go through walls, fast but not very fast
  
• 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi: much shorter range, cannot go very far through walls, quite fast
  
• Li-Fi: long range (?), cannot go through any walls, very very fast

@xuu@txt.sour.is ah, well, I think it’s on 1.0.x now but it picked up ipv6 support in 0.10.x