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In-reply-to » @prologic Hmmm, I have no idea how to solve that problem. 😅 Some jenny stuff aside, I received zero bug reports or code contributions since leaving GitHub in 2018.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

How many tickets and merge requests did you get before moving to your own server?

Hm, these were probably some of the more active projects:

So it’s not a ton of stuff and there are many “issues” I opened myself, but it’s certainly more than these days.

Haven’t used git send-email even once. I definitely have to look into that soon. Wanted to do that for several years. I typically upload the patch to my server and send a link via IRC.

git send-email is good for sending patches to a mailing list (because then the individual patches can be discussed easily), but since those are dying out as well, it loses its appeal. If you want to send patches to a single person, just sending the link to your repo is far easier. đŸ€”

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In-reply-to » @prologic Hmmm, I have no idea how to solve that problem. 😅 Some jenny stuff aside, I received zero bug reports or code contributions since leaving GitHub in 2018.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Finally, your software is just perfect and finished by now, no need to report non-existing bugs or send in code changes. :-) How many tickets and merge requests did you get before moving to your own server?

I have to admit that I use git format-patch so rarely, I always have to pull it up from my shell history. Haven’t used git send-email even once. I definitely have to look into that soon. Wanted to do that for several years. I typically upload the patch to my server and send a link via IRC.

Maybe I was just very unlucky, but my experience is that you can perfectly ignore people and their work who only do it for the “fame”. It’s almost always been from inferior quality to say the least.

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In-reply-to » Anyone using XMPP? I've been hearing a lot about how it is the OG messaging protocol. That G00gle Talk used to use it as a back-end, that FB messanger and w_hatsapp use some modified version of it or something; And that setting up a server (or even using a public one) would be a better alternative to the aforementioned apps, so I did. Now the question is: "Where the Fu__ are my video calls at!!? đŸ€Ł" ... The protocol supports videoconferencing and I'm yet to find a decent Desktop/Mobile client that implements it. I wish I knew enough Code-Fu to contribute/help implement some, somewhere.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I don’t. but i do use IRC so hmmm 🧐

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In-reply-to » Anyone using XMPP? I've been hearing a lot about how it is the OG messaging protocol. That G00gle Talk used to use it as a back-end, that FB messanger and w_hatsapp use some modified version of it or something; And that setting up a server (or even using a public one) would be a better alternative to the aforementioned apps, so I did. Now the question is: "Where the Fu__ are my video calls at!!? đŸ€Ł" ... The protocol supports videoconferencing and I'm yet to find a decent Desktop/Mobile client that implements it. I wish I knew enough Code-Fu to contribute/help implement some, somewhere.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org How many people are still using XMPP? đŸ€” I’d expect the number to just as low as IRC users? đŸ€”

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In-reply-to » And if we can compile a list and file issues for feeds, twtxt.app and anything else as issues for when i get back 🙏 feature requests, bug reports. etc đŸ€ž

@prologic@twtxt.net I linked you some of my findings on the twtxt.app on IRC. The main problem is the hashing. Totally broken. But you have got to give it some thought, because GitHub hosting of the feed is tricky (even more so if they are CNAMEing their domain to it). It is also finicky because Pages is auto-enabled on username.github.io, so actions must run each time you twt.

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In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

Most of the time, I take a very very long time to do anything. If I say, for example, “I’ll build an IRC Web Client”, that may not happen for weeks, if not months, until my sub conscience has has time to process everything. It’s like basically a “feeling” of internal readiness. I never talk through it, never actively think about it, it just happens.

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Marques Mendes quer imigração regulada. Acha que agora as coisas estão muito melhor do que na altura do PS. Crescimento Económico tem de ser estratégico para um Presidente. Temos de ter no mínimo 3,5% de crescimento ao ano. Com mais liberalização e flexibilidade. Temos de aumentar as pensÔes.

Gouveia e Melo diz que temos Ă© de falar de transparĂȘncia e segurança, que isso Ă© que sĂŁo temas de presidenciais, em vez da economia que Ă© um problema de governo. Mas diz isto para acusar LMM em ser facilitador e Seguro de ser fraco segundo MĂĄrio Soares.

LMM defende-se, dizendo que GeM tem feito uma campanha de insinuaçÔes e não apresenta um caso de facilitador.

AF - O aumento do salĂĄrio mĂ­nimo Ă© bom para os trabalhadores e economia, a descida do IRC Ă© mau (diz e justifica). É preciso de cumprir a constituição, tambĂ©m na aceitação da entrada de imigrantes legalmente.

HC - A melhor integração a imigrantes é na escola

MV - a questĂŁo do territĂłrio Ă© que Ă© o problema que temos de falar. A solução dele Ă© criar VieirĂłpolis, no centro do paĂ­s, uma cidade de ficção cientĂ­fica. Desta vez AV nĂŁo esconde estar a rir, e Ă© Cotrim a conter-se. Boa altura para ir para intervalo
 no regresso serĂĄ a vez do Pestana responder.

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Thank you for the encouragement and love and kind words, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net @doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt and others along the way I’m not sure of their feed uris 💕 I’ll keep at it, but for the time being I will keep my distance, mostly off IRC, because I don’t have the energy to spare in that kind of engagement (what//if the worst happens, it’s so draining). I need to remember what I ever did any of this for, it was back in ~2020 and I wanted really to build small interconnected communities that any non “tech savvy” person (more or less) could also benefit from ane enjoy. Even if there are aspects of the specs we’ve built/extended over time that aren’t “perfect”ℱ, they’re “good enough”ℱ that they’ve last 5+ years (I believe this is 6 years running now). I want to spend a bit of time going back to why I did any of this in the the first place, and get a little micro-SaaS offering going (barely covering running costs) so encourage more folks to run pods, and thus twtxt feeds and grow the community ever so slightly. Other than that, I plan to get the specs “in order” to a point (with @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s help) where I hope they’ll stand the test of time – like SMTP.

Thank you all ! 🙏

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In-reply-to » Everything in the realm of “smartphones” is such an incomprehensible clusterfuck. I want to throw this thing out the window.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Speaking of “clusterfucks”. Every fucking time I try to type something on my fucking goddamn iPhone’s little tiny ass on-screen keyboard it ends up typing out “I love you!” đŸ€Ÿ For fucks sake đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž – Given the size of the fucking goddamn on-screen keyboards on these things and folks with limited/poor vision, can’t we figure out what I meant to type instead of spitting out total garbage nonsense that I had no intention of typing that makes me just look silly and stupid?! đŸ€Ź Ask @bender@twtxt.net how many times this has happened on IRC whenever I’ve been on my phone đŸ“±

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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com, I mean to follow up here on the brief exchange we had on irc.mills.io, but I forgot. Never too late, so here it goes:

18:16 <aelaraji> quark 🙏 much appreciated but it won't be necessary, since there isn't much to miss out on in most of  where I hang out, so I could just disconnect and spare everyone else the noise 
18:17 *** aelaraji (aelaraji@776014f5a3edd32f1ed19658b7b85c8c655945b0feacaedd92fe60e61a3c0ae2) has quit (/ME goes "yeeeeet..!")
18:18 <quark> No noise for me. 
18:18 <quark> It’s all good. 
18:18 <quark> What would IRC be without on/offs?
18:19 <quark> Preeeety boring!
18:19 <quark> Ah, he was gone. 
18:19 <quark> Well, I will twtxt this to him.  LOL. 

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** My not so pragmatic guide to running background services on macOS **
I self host a lot of stuff — these days, mostly weird little utility scripts and toys that run in the background, but also some web apps like plex, calibre, and a suite of irc things. For a long time I ran such things on a VPS, but being incredibly cheap, and hardly ever leaving my house for realsies, during the height of the pandemic I brought everything on to an aged mac mini I keep on a shelf behind some books.

I tr 
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In-reply-to » Confession:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this is so real
 i think we need to bring back topic focused groups but like with a little off topic side of things just in case people wanna go off topic. so the option’s there but the intent is the topic! microblogging isn’t best for this yeah. i think this is part of why IRC still goes strong for many tech people

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In-reply-to » @kate I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.

@bender@twtxt.net Sure! 👍

{
    ...
   # Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
   layer4 {
      # Gopher
      0.0.0.0:70 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:70
         }
      }

      # IRC (TLS)
      0.0.0.0:6697 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:6697
         }
      }
   }
}

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**(#zhlsx2q) @bender@bender Sure! 👍

{
    ...
   # Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
   layer4 {
      # Gopher
      0.0.0.0:70 {
         route { ...**
[@bender _@twtxt.net_](https://twtxt.net/user/bender/) Sure! 👍

{

...

# Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
layer4 {

  # Gopher
  0.0.0.0:70 {
     route {
        proxy <internal_ip>:70
     }
  }

  # IRC (TLS)
  0.0.0.0:6697 {
     route {
        proxy <internal_ip>:6697
     }
  }

}
}

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In-reply-to » @movq i tried ngircd but couldn't figure it out T__T i left it at the web client and bouncer for now but i might toy with an IRC server another time!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz At the core, you need an ngircd.conf like this:

[Global]
    Name = your.irc.server.com
    Password = yourfancypassword
    Listen = 0.0.0.0
    Ports = 6667

    AdminInfo1 = Well, me.
    AdminInfo2 = Over here!
    AdminEMail = forget.it@example.invalid

[Options]
    Ident = no
    PAM = no

[SSL]
    CertFile = /etc/ssl/acme/your.irc.server.com.fullchain.pem
    KeyFile = /etc/ssl/acme/private/your.irc.server.com.key
    DHFile = /etc/ngircd/dhparam.pem
    Ports = 6669

Start it and then you can connect on port 6667. (The SSL cert/key must be managed by an external tool, probably something like certbot or acme-client.)

I’m assuming OpenBSD here. Haven’t tried it on Linux lately, let alone Docker. 😅

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is it like
 ethical to offer access to certain self hosted services as patreon exclusives. like i wanna offer the IRC client/bouncer i hosted which seems ok i think because i’ve seen pico.sh offer their instances of that as paid services. but the other ones i have in mind are alt web frontends for stuff like imgur and pinterest. and i just feel weird about it for some reason. idk i’m trying to think of ways to support my server stuff but every time i come up with something it feels weird

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In-reply-to » guys i may be stupid. i confused IRC bouncer with IRC server

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃

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In-reply-to » hey everyone i've spent my whole day trying to set up soju + gamja in docker and now i am down a rabbit hole of building caddy with layer4 support and trying to get TLS for my IRC server and NOTHING IS WORKING

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I skimmed through the gamja docs and they say you need an “IRC WebSocket server” – no idea what that is. Does gamja not speak IRC directly but essentially “IRC over HTTP”? Curious. đŸ€”

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@prologic@twtxt.net, from IRC:

  1. Saving preferences is failing. Specifically trying to save “Open Links” on the same window. For sure it isn’t happening. Check errors on browser’s console.
  2. Search results pagination is broken. Search for “twtxt.net” and see it. Also, picking oldest/newest makes no difference on that search query.

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