@david@daiwei.me Easy, Twtxt is similar to IRC. If you publish the password here, e.g. hunter2, only @itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com will be able to read it as it is his. See?!

@david@daiwei.me To be honest, I’m a bit tor: part of me wants to set it up on my main application server (alongside gitea, TwtKpr, and a few others), but part of me wants to run it on a Raspberry Pi with Docker (because why not).

I’m also something of a bad geek in some areas, and IRC was never really my scene, so I don’t have a ton of experience with it (I went straight from BBSes to WWW)… Maybe I’ll take you up on that offer of an account at https://chat.ratha.us/, just to get my feet wet… (if it’s still open) 😁

Also apologies. If you want to chat to me in more ~realtime, I’m more active on something we’re calling Parley – A truly decentralised federated IRC chat system. You have to spin up your own instance (ideally) or join someone else’s, but otherwise you use a normal IRCv3 capable client, but the entire “network” (so to speak) automatically forms a decentralized mesh.

@prologic@twtxt.net @david@daiwei.me Maybe in a month or so when I have free mental capacity again, I might take a look. Happy IRCing!

👋 Calling all decentralised enthusiasts that still remembers and use IRC 😎

Please come join us in a new, truely, decentralised IRC-based chat experience by standing up your own Parley instance on your own domain (bring your own OIDC auth or use the built-in).

Pick your favourite IRCv3-compatible client (there’s heaps out there!).

And peer with either me james@mills.io or Admin -> Peers -> Add mills.io or @david@daiwei.me via david@ratha.us or simply ratha.us (in Admin -> Peers -> Add).

See you online! 🤞 #decentralised #irc #chat

@prologic@twtxt.net Sure, thanks! I’m interested to see how it works (although I admit, I ever spent much time in IRC because I never knew anyone else who had much interest in using it).

I have (finally) built a fully e2e working purely decentralised and federated IRC-compatible chat server. It is currently a PoC, but it’s already working quite well. It’s inspired partly by the work we did with Salty Chat in terms of Discovery and Federation. Some screenshots of a normal IRC client irssi showing off how it works in a local e2e setup:

@david@daiwei.me ping me on IRC when you have a couple of spare hours 👌

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

How many tickets and merge requests did you get before moving to your own server?

Hm, these were probably some of the more active projects:

• https://github.com/vain/lariza/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  
• https://github.com/vain/pdfPres/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  
• https://github.com/vain/xiate/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed
  

So it’s not a ton of stuff and there are many “issues” I opened myself, but it’s certainly more than these days.

Haven’t used git send-email even once. I definitely have to look into that soon. Wanted to do that for several years. I typically upload the patch to my server and send a link via IRC.

git send-email is good for sending patches to a mailing list (because then the individual patches can be discussed easily), but since those are dying out as well, it loses its appeal. If you want to send patches to a single person, just sending the link to your repo is far easier. 🤔

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Finally, your software is just perfect and finished by now, no need to report non-existing bugs or send in code changes. :-) How many tickets and merge requests did you get before moving to your own server?

I have to admit that I use git format-patch so rarely, I always have to pull it up from my shell history. Haven’t used git send-email even once. I definitely have to look into that soon. Wanted to do that for several years. I typically upload the patch to my server and send a link via IRC.

Maybe I was just very unlucky, but my experience is that you can perfectly ignore people and their work who only do it for the “fame”. It’s almost always been from inferior quality to say the least.

@prologic@twtxt.net hear hear! IRC all the way. 🚀

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I don’t. but i do use IRC so hmmm 🧐

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org How many people are still using XMPP? 🤔 I’d expect the number to just as low as IRC users? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net I linked you some of my findings on the twtxt.app on IRC. The main problem is the hashing. Totally broken. But you have got to give it some thought, because GitHub hosting of the feed is tricky (even more so if they are CNAMEing their domain to it). It is also finicky because Pages is auto-enabled on username.github.io, so actions must run each time you twt.

@GabesArcade@gabesarcade.com LOL You can Email me, hit me up on Signal, orc IRC. Take ya pick I’m around 😅

@kiwu@twtxt.net jump on IRC and tell us! Server irc.mills.io, on 6697 (TLS), join #lobby, then private message (I am quark). :-P

Most of the time, I take a very very long time to do anything. If I say, for example, “I’ll build an IRC Web Client”, that may not happen for weeks, if not months, until my sub conscience has has time to process everything. It’s like basically a “feeling” of internal readiness. I never talk through it, never actively think about it, it just happens.

Someone on #twtxt or #yarn.social on IRC told me to use a client that supports extensions and replies. Uhh… Client? I’m writing my microblogging by hand! (Hides in a very weird mix of pride and shame)

Marques Mendes quer imigração regulada. Acha que agora as coisas estão muito melhor do que na altura do PS. Crescimento Económico tem de ser estratégico para um Presidente. Temos de ter no mínimo 3,5% de crescimento ao ano. Com mais liberalização e flexibilidade. Temos de aumentar as pensões.

Gouveia e Melo diz que temos é de falar de transparência e segurança, que isso é que são temas de presidenciais, em vez da economia que é um problema de governo. Mas diz isto para acusar LMM em ser facilitador e Seguro de ser fraco segundo Mário Soares.

LMM defende-se, dizendo que GeM tem feito uma campanha de insinuações e não apresenta um caso de facilitador.

AF - O aumento do salário mínimo é bom para os trabalhadores e economia, a descida do IRC é mau (diz e justifica). É preciso de cumprir a constituição, também na aceitação da entrada de imigrantes legalmente.

HC - A melhor integração a imigrantes é na escola

MV - a questão do território é que é o problema que temos de falar. A solução dele é criar Vieirópolis, no centro do país, uma cidade de ficção científica. Desta vez AV não esconde estar a rir, e é Cotrim a conter-se. Boa altura para ir para intervalo… no regresso será a vez do Pestana responder.

6/n

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I see problems with that, yes. Case in point:

It is harder to regain ownership of an IRC channel than crossing the Mexico/US border. 😅

@xuu@txt.sour.is as long as I see you on IRC, bouncer or not, I don’t worry. Weird, isn’t it? Glad you are OK, Winter’s coming!

Thank you for the encouragement and love and kind words, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net @doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt and others along the way I’m not sure of their feed uris 💕 I’ll keep at it, but for the time being I will keep my distance, mostly off IRC, because I don’t have the energy to spare in that kind of engagement (what//if the worst happens, it’s so draining). I need to remember what I ever did any of this for, it was back in ~2020 and I wanted really to build small interconnected communities that any non “tech savvy” person (more or less) could also benefit from ane enjoy. Even if there are aspects of the specs we’ve built/extended over time that aren’t “perfect”™, they’re “good enough”™ that they’ve last 5+ years (I believe this is 6 years running now). I want to spend a bit of time going back to why I did any of this in the the first place, and get a little micro-SaaS offering going (barely covering running costs) so encourage more folks to run pods, and thus twtxt feeds and grow the community ever so slightly. Other than that, I plan to get the specs “in order” to a point (with @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s help) where I hope they’ll stand the test of time – like SMTP.

Thank you all ! 🙏

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Speaking of “clusterfucks”. Every fucking time I try to type something on my fucking goddamn iPhone’s little tiny ass on-screen keyboard it ends up typing out “I love you!” 🤟 For fucks sake 🤦‍♂️ – Given the size of the fucking goddamn on-screen keyboards on these things and folks with limited/poor vision, can’t we figure out what I meant to type instead of spitting out total garbage nonsense that I had no intention of typing that makes me just look silly and stupid?! 🤬 Ask @bender@twtxt.net how many times this has happened on IRC whenever I’ve been on my phone 📱

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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com, I mean to follow up here on the brief exchange we had on irc.mills.io, but I forgot. Never too late, so here it goes:

18:16 <aelaraji> quark 🙏 much appreciated but it won't be necessary, since there isn't much to miss out on in most of  where I hang out, so I could just disconnect and spare everyone else the noise 
18:17 *** aelaraji (aelaraji@776014f5a3edd32f1ed19658b7b85c8c655945b0feacaedd92fe60e61a3c0ae2) has quit (/ME goes "yeeeeet..!")
18:18 <quark> No noise for me. 
18:18 <quark> It’s all good. 
18:18 <quark> What would IRC be without on/offs?
18:19 <quark> Preeeety boring!
18:19 <quark> Ah, he was gone. 
18:19 <quark> Well, I will twtxt this to him.  LOL. 

anyway sup friends i hosted an IRC server

@zvava@twtxt.net I reckon there’s currently nobody working on v2. Which timezone are you in? Just post your questions here or head over to #yarn.social at libera.chat for a more realtime conversation via IRC.

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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Cool! 😎 Mind joining the same IRC space? 🙏

@javivf@adn.org.es Sorry. 😂 Meet me on IRC at irc.mills.io in #edgeguard 👌 I’m @james@yarn.mills.io there 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net where on IRC? Network, channel, nick? IRC is vast! It’s like saying, “meet me in Australia, and we go from there!” 😅

@javivf@adn.org.es Hit me up on IRC or something and we’ll get started 👌

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de this is so real… i think we need to bring back topic focused groups but like with a little off topic side of things just in case people wanna go off topic. so the option’s there but the intent is the topic! microblogging isn’t best for this yeah. i think this is part of why IRC still goes strong for many tech people

@xuu@txt.sour.is As I also mentioend on IRC I think this is a. bug?

@bender@twtxt.net Sure! 👍

{
    ...
   # Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
   layer4 {
      # Gopher
      0.0.0.0:70 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:70
         }
      }

      # IRC (TLS)
      0.0.0.0:6697 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:6697
         }
      }
   }
}

**(#zhlsx2q) @bender@bender Sure! 👍

{
    ...
   # Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
   layer4 {
      # Gopher
      0.0.0.0:70 {
         route { ...**
[@bender _@twtxt.net_](https://twtxt.net/user/bender/) Sure! 👍

{

...

# Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
layer4 {

  # Gopher
  0.0.0.0:70 {
     route {
        proxy <internal_ip>:70
     }
  }

  # IRC (TLS)
  0.0.0.0:6697 {
     route {
        proxy <internal_ip>:6697
     }
  }

}
}

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@prologic@twtxt.net want to share the snippet of your Caddyfile for irc.mills.io?

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz At the core, you need an ngircd.conf like this:

[Global]
    Name = your.irc.server.com
    Password = yourfancypassword
    Listen = 0.0.0.0
    Ports = 6667

    AdminInfo1 = Well, me.
    AdminInfo2 = Over here!
    AdminEMail = forget.it@example.invalid

[Options]
    Ident = no
    PAM = no

[SSL]
    CertFile = /etc/ssl/acme/your.irc.server.com.fullchain.pem
    KeyFile = /etc/ssl/acme/private/your.irc.server.com.key
    DHFile = /etc/ngircd/dhparam.pem
    Ports = 6669

Start it and then you can connect on port 6667. (The SSL cert/key must be managed by an external tool, probably something like certbot or acme-client.)

I’m assuming OpenBSD here. Haven’t tried it on Linux lately, let alone Docker. 😅

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don’t terminate TLS at the edge in this case.

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is it like… ethical to offer access to certain self hosted services as patreon exclusives. like i wanna offer the IRC client/bouncer i hosted which seems ok i think because i’ve seen pico.sh offer their instances of that as paid services. but the other ones i have in mind are alt web frontends for stuff like imgur and pinterest. and i just feel weird about it for some reason. idk i’m trying to think of ways to support my server stuff but every time i come up with something it feels weird

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i tried ngircd but couldn’t figure it out T__T i left it at the web client and bouncer for now but i might toy with an IRC server another time!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃

guys i may be stupid. i confused IRC bouncer with IRC server

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I skimmed through the gamja docs and they say you need an “IRC WebSocket server” – no idea what that is. Does gamja not speak IRC directly but essentially “IRC over HTTP”? Curious. 🤔

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i JUST want my own IRC server for fun. that is all i want

hey everyone i’ve spent my whole day trying to set up soju + gamja in docker and now i am down a rabbit hole of building caddy with layer4 support and trying to get TLS for my IRC server and NOTHING IS WORKING

@prologic@twtxt.net so, where is the irc.mills.io leaf, connecting to Libera? 🤭