… and now I just read @bender@twtxt.net’s other post that said the Gemini text was a shortened version, so I might have criticized things that weren’t true for the full version. Okay, sorry, I’m out. (And I won’t play that game, either. Don’t send me another AI output, possibly tweaked to address my criticism. That is besides the point and not worth my time.)

@prologic@twtxt.net Let’s go through it one by one. Here’s a wall of text that took me over 1.5 hours to write.

This section says AI should not be treated as an authority. This is actually just what I said, except the AI phrased/framed it like it was a counter-argument.

The AI also said that users must develop “AI literacy”, again phrasing/framing it like a counter-argument. Well, that is also just what I said. I said you should treat AI output like a random blog and you should verify the sources, yadda yadda. That is “AI literacy”, isn’t it?

My text went one step further, though: I said that when you take this requirement of “AI literacy” into account, you basically end up with a fancy search engine, with extra overhead that costs time. The AI missed/ignored this in its reply.

Okay, so, the AI also said that you should use AI tools just for drafting and brainstorming. Granted, a very rough draft of something will probably be doable. But then you have to diligently verify every little detail of this draft – okay, fine, a draft is a draft, it’s fine if it contains errors. The thing is, though, that you really must do this verification. And I claim that many people will not do it, because AI outputs look sooooo convincing, they don’t feel like a draft that needs editing.

Can you, as an expert, still use an AI draft as a basis/foundation? Yeah, probably. But here’s the kicker: You did not create that draft. You were not involved in the “thought process” behind it. When you, a human being, make a draft, you often think something like: “Okay, I want to draw a picture of a landscape and there’s going to be a little house, but for now, I’ll just put in a rough sketch of the house and add the details later.” You are aware of what you left out. When the AI did the draft, you are not aware of what’s missing – even more so when every AI output already looks like a final product. For me, personally, this makes it much harder and slower to verify such a draft, and I mentioned this in my text.

You, @prologic@twtxt.net, also mentioned this in your car tyre example.

In my text, I gave two analogies: The gym analogy and the Google Translate analogy. Your car tyre example falls in the same category, but Gemini’s calculator example is different (and, again, gaslight-y, see below).

What I meant in my text: A person wants to be a programmer. To me, a programmer is a person who writes code, understands code, maintains code, writes documentation, and so on. In your example, a person who changes a car tyre would be a mechanic. Now, if you use AI to write the code and documentation for you, are you still a programmer? If you have no understanding of said code, are you a programmer? A person who does not know how to change a car tyre, is that still a mechanic?

No, you’re something else. You should not be hired as a programmer or a mechanic.

Yes, that is “skill evolution” – which is pretty much my point! But the AI framed it like a counter-argument. It didn’t understand my text.

(But what if that’s our future? What if all programming will look like that in some years? I claim: It’s not possible. If you don’t know how to program, then you don’t know how to read/understand code written by an AI. You are something else, but you’re not a programmer. It might be valid to be something else – but that wasn’t my point, my point was that you’re not a bloody programmer.)

Gemini’s calculator example is garbage, I think. Crunching numbers and doing mathematics (i.e., “complex problem-solving”) are two different things. Just because you now have a calculator, doesn’t mean it’ll free you up to do mathematical proofs or whatever.

What would have worked is this: Let’s say you’re an accountant and you sum up spendings. Without a calculator, this takes a lot of time and is error prone. But when you have one, you can work faster. But once again, there’s a little gaslight-y detail: A calculator is correct. Yes, it could have “bugs” (hello Intel FDIV), but its design actually properly calculates numbers. AI, on the other hand, does not understand a thing (our current AI, that is), it’s just a statistical model. So, this modified example (“accountant with a calculator”) would actually have to be phrased like this: Suppose there’s an accountant and you give her a magic box that spits out the correct result in, what, I don’t know, 70-90% of the time. The accountant couldn’t rely on this box now, could she? She’d either have to double-check everything or accept possibly wrong results. And that is how I feel like when I work with AI tools.

Gemini has no idea that its calculator example doesn’t make sense. It just spits out some generic “argument” that it picked up on some website.

The AI makes two points here. The first one, I might actually agree with (“bad bot behavior is not the fault of AI itself”).

The second point is, once again, gaslighting, because it is phrased/framed like a counter-argument. It implies that I said something which I didn’t. Like the AI, I said that you would have to adjust the copyright law! At the same time, the AI answer didn’t even question whether it’s okay to break the current law or not. It just said “lol yeah, change the laws”. (I wonder in what way the laws would have to be changed in the AI’s “opinion”, because some of these changes could kill some business opportunities – or the laws would have to have special AI clauses that only benefit the AI techbros. But I digress, that wasn’t part of Gemini’s answer.)

Except for one point, I don’t accept any of Gemini’s “criticism”. It didn’t pick up on lots of details, ignored arguments, and I can just instinctively tell that this thing does not understand anything it wrote (which is correct, it’s just a statistical model).

And it framed everything like a counter-argument, while actually repeating what I said. That’s gaslighting: When Alice says “the sky is blue” and Bob replies with “why do you say the sky is purple?!”

But it sure looks convincing, doesn’t it?

This took so much of my time. I won’t do this again. 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net when I first “fed” the text to Gemini, I asked for a three paragraphs summary. It provided it. Then I asked to “elaborate on three areas: user experience, moral/political impact, and technical/legal concerns”. The reply to that is too long for a twtxt.

I then asked to counter the OP opinions—as in “how would you counter the author’s opinion?”. The reply was very long, but started like this:

“That’s an excellent question, as the post lays out some very strong, well-reasoned criticisms. Countering these points requires acknowledging the valid concerns while presenting a perspective focused on mitigation, responsible integration, and the unique benefits of AI.”

What followed was extensive, so I asked for a summary, which didn’t do justice to the wall of text that preceded it.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I am genuinely curious as to why you think Geminis summarization and the categorization of your gopher post was and is as you say misunderstood?

I asked this very genuinely because before reading @bender@twtxt.net’s comments and Gemini summarization I actually went and unplugged your post into flood gaps go for proxy, and then listen to the text intently with my own human ears 👂

Gemini AI To Transform Google Maps Into a More Conversational Experience
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Associated Press: Google Maps is heading in a new direction with artificial intelligence sitting in the passenger’s seat. Fueled by Google’s Gemini AI technology, the world’s most popular navigation app will become a more conversational companion as part of a redesign announced Wednesda … ⌘ Read more

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this I find more worrisome, and saw no mention of it on your text: Right-Wing Chatbots Turbocharge America’s Political and Cultural Wars (gift article).

Enoch, one of the newer chatbots powered by artificial intelligence, promises “to ‘mind wipe’ the pro-pharma bias” from its answers. Another, Arya, produces content based on instructions that tell it to be an “unapologetic right-wing nationalist Christian A.I. model.”

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Gemini liked your opinion very much. Here is how it countered:

The criticism of AI as untrustworthy is a problem of misapplication, not capability.

• AI as a Force Multiplier: AI should be treated as a high-speed drafting and brainstorming tool, not an authority. For experts, it offers an immense speed gain, shifting the work from slow manual creation to fast critical editing and verification.
  
• The Rise of AI Literacy: Users must develop a new skill—AI literacy—to critically evaluate and verify AI’s probabilistic output. This skill, along with improving citation features in AI tools, mitigates the “gaslighting” effect.
  

The fear of skill loss is based on a misunderstanding of how technology changes the nature of work; it’s skill evolution, not erosion.

• Shifting Focus to High-Level Skills: Just as the calculator shifted focus from manual math to complex problem-solving, AI shifts the focus from writing boilerplate code to architectural design and prompt engineering. It handles repetitive tasks, freeing humans for creative and complex challenges.
  
• Accessibility and Empowerment: AI serves as a powerful democratizing tool, offering personalized tutoring and automation to people who lack deep expertise. While dependency is a risk, this accessibility empowers a wider segment of the population previously limited by skill barriers.
  

The legal and technical flaws are issues of governance and ethical practice, not reasons to reject the core technology.

• Need for Better Bot Governance: Destructive scraping is a failure of ethical web behavior and can be solved with better bot identification, rate limits, and protocols (like enhanced robots.txt). The solution is to demand digital citizenship from AI companies, not to stop AI development.

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How to add MCP Servers to Gemini CLI with Docker MCP Toolkit
In the rapidly evolving landscape of AI-assisted development, most developers continue to struggle with clunky web interfaces, resource-intensive IDEs, and fragmented toolchains. But what if we told you there’s a combination that pairs Google’s 76.3K-star Gemini CLI (in just 5 months) with Docker’s innovative MCP Toolkit, quietly revolutionizing how modern AI developers work? Enter the… ⌘ Read more

Build a Multi-Agent System in 5 Minutes with cagent
Models are advancing quickly. GPT-5, Claude Sonnet, Gemini. Each release gives us more capabilities. But most real work isn’t solved by a single model. Developers are realizing they need a system of agents: different types of agents working together to accomplish more complex tasks. For example, a researcher to find information, a writer to summarize,… ⌘ Read more

Regurge. YALLM-plugin for Vim. Streaming, Gemini, VertexAI, uncensored, parameterised. ⌘ Read more

we facilitated a workshop at Alpaca 2025: Introduction to the qiudanz technique: computational transformation of minimalist movement sequences | gemini://compudanzas.net/alpaca_2025_workshop_notes.gmi

For those not on Gemini, a proxy provides more insides on such, hmm, interesting acronym. :-D

I think I’m gonna participate in ROOPHLOCH this year: gemini://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/announcing-roophloch-2025.gmi

@dce@hashnix.club I don’t use Gemini, but I follow you on the good, old, HTTP(S)! :-)

Here’s an interesting thought/angle on this topic:

gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2025/08/21.1

A further check showed that all the network blocks are owned by one organization—Tencent [4]. I’m seriously thinking that the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) encourage this with maybe the hope of externalizing the cost of the Great Firewall [5] to the rest of the world.

upcoming workshop! we will participate in the Alpaca Conference (Algorithmic Patterns in the Creative Arts) with: Introduction to the qiudanz technique: computational transformation of minimalist movement sequences | gemini://compudanzas.net/talks_and_workshops.gmi

Really, it won’t be long until I give the world the finger and move everything behind Gopher or Gemini. It’ll be a while until the bots find me there.

shared a guest talk and workshop at Decomputing: A Community Exploration | gemini://compudanzas.net/talks_and_workshops.gmi

Happy 6th birthday, Gemini protocol!

shared an in-person workshop at ALGOPOÉTICA Madrid: introduction to the qiudanz technique: computational transformation of minimalist movement sequences | gemini://compudanzas.net/talks_and_workshops.gmi

submitted a workshop proposal for Algorithmic Pattern 2025, qiudanz technique: computational manipulation of minimalist movement sequences | gemini://compudanzas.net/alpaca_2025_workshop_proposal.gmi

When I chose the MIT license for all of my software, I thought:

“Should I use GPL, which I don’t really understand? Is that worth it? Yeah, there is a theoretical possibility that some company might use my code in their proprietary product … and then what? Should I sue them to enforce the GPL? I’m not going to do that anyway, so I’ll just use the MIT license.”

And now we have those LLM scrapers and now it’s suddenly a reality that these companies (ab)use my code. I can see it in my logs. I didn’t expect that back then.

GPL wouldn’t help, either, of course. (Regardless, I now think that GPL would have been the better choice anyway.)

I’m honestly considering taking my code and website offline. Maybe make it accessible through some obscure protocol like Gopher or Gemini, but no more HTTP.

(Yes, Anubis might help. Temporarily.)

I’m just tired.

we participated in the If, Then: Technology and Poetics Open Mic, talking about the qiudanz technique | gemini://compudanzas.net/talks_and_workshops.gmi

Gemini Diffusion
Article URL: https://simonwillison.net/2025/May/21/gemini-diffusion/

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44057820

Points: 503

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Understanding task types in the Gemini Embedding API
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AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms
See also https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01523-z ( https://archive.is/NBaXE)

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43985489

Points: 501

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Farrrk me Google search is and these days. Will they please “fuck off” with this Gemini AI garbage at the top that takes forever and is distracting as shit™ 💩 Fark me 🤦‍♂️ #Google #Search #Sucks #AI #Gemini

Automating code deletion with Gemini (and a little Python)
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Computers in school (updated)

A much shorter version of this post was initially published on
2022-05-23 (Pungenday, the 70 day of Discord in the YOLD 3188) in my
gemlog at:

gemini://gem.hack.org/log/computers-in-school.gmi

The text has been edited after speaking with some old school mates and
trying to remember more. I also added a few photos.

When I started upper secondary school as a sixteen year-old in 1988 my
school had what I think were IBM PC/XT computers, one classroom of
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Computers in school (updated)

A much shorter version of this post was initially published on
2022-05-23 (Pungenday, the 70 day of Discord in the YOLD 3188) in my
gemlog at:

gemini://gem.hack.org/log/computers-in-school.gmi

The text has been edited after speaking with some old school mates and
trying to remember more. I also added a few photos.

When I started upper secondary school as a sixteen year-old in 1988 my
school had wha … ⌘ Read more

Computers in school

A version of this post was initially published on 2022-05-23
(Pungenday, the 70 day of Discord in the YOLD 3188) in my gemlog at:

gemini://gem.hack.org/log/computers-in-school.gmi

The text has been edited after speaking with some old school mates and
trying to remember more. I also added a few photos.

When I started upper secondary school as a sixteen year-old in 1988 my
school had what I think were IBM PC/XT computers, one classroom of
16(?) computers with co … ⌘ Read more

@prologic@twtxt.net OH SHIT using this for a protocol like gopher is smart! might have to try that for gemini so i don’t have to keep a port open for that

we now have a first 88x31 banner! | gemini://compudanzas.net/colophon.gmi

Google Gemini Advanced & 2TB Storage Free for Students
Google is offering their Gemini Advanced AI model for free to students, along with 2TB of free storage. This is a limited time offer where students must sign up by June 30, 2025. Students will need a valid .edu email address to be able to signup for the deal. Google says you can use Gemini … Read More ⌘ Read more

Gemini 2.5 Flash
Article URL: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/start-building-with-gemini-25-flash/

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43720845

Points: 503

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¿cómo diseñarías un procedimiento para sumar dos números, optimizándolo para ser [inserte opción]? | gemini://compudanzas.net/optimizaciones.gmi

@bender@twtxt.net thinked about Gemini protocol. Why corporations shit this name with cryptocurrency and LLMs?

Google, DuckDuckGo massively expand “AI” search results
Clearly, online search isn’t bad enough yet, so Google is intensifying its efforts to continue speedrunning the downfall of Google Search. They’ve announced they’re going to show even more “AI”-generated answers in Search results, to more people. Today, we’re sharing that we’ve launched Gemini 2.0 for AI Overviews in the U.S. to help with harder questions, starting with coding, advanced math and multimodal queries, with mor … ⌘ Read more

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Broke on me for having alt-urls I think 🥲

twtxt---profile-layout: Wrong type argument: char-or-string-p, ("https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt" "gemini://box.aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt" "gopher://box.aelaraji.com/0/twtxt.txt")

Orbbec Unveils Gemini 215 Stereo 3D Camera and Pulsar SL450 at CES 2025
At CES 2025, Orbbec introduced the Gemini 215 Stereo 3D Camera and the Pulsar SL450 dToF Single-Line LiDAR. The Gemini 215, designed for high-precision scanning, features depth measurement accuracy of less than 0.5 millimeters, multi-camera synchronization, and a lightweight build, making it suitable for various short-range 3D scanning applications. The Gemini 215 is engineered for […] ⌘ Read more

messing with gemini again, this time a static site generator called gssg - https://git.sr.ht/~gsthnz/gssg

my capsule is linked in my profile but just in case it’s over at gemini://lazuli.sayitditto.net

Living together: Reflections on collective living
[A version of this post was initially published on 2022-05-30 (Setting
Orange, the 4 day of Confusion in the YOLD 3188) in my gemlog at:

gemini://gem.hack.org/log/collectives.gmi

It’s been slightly edited and a few photos added.

Posted on the blog on 2024-12-15 02:33 +0100. Later updated with how
Area 41 ended.]

I dreamt about Dial House last night. I’ve never been there, but it
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Living together: Reflections on collective living
[A version of this post was initially published on 2022-05-30 (Setting
Orange, the 4 day of Confusion in the YOLD 3188) in my gemlog at:

gemini://gem.hack.org/log/collectives.gmi

It’s been slightly edited and a few photos added.]

I dreamt about Dial House last night. I’ve never been there, but it
was like I belonged, like I was meant to be there.

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@sorenpeter@darch.dk on 4 for gemini if your TLS client certificate contains your nick@host could that work for discovery?

@eapl.me@eapl.me here are my replies (somewhat similar to Lyse’s and James’)

1. Metadata in twts: Key=value is too complicated for non-hackers and hard to write by hand. So if there is a need then we should just use #NSFS or the alt-text file in markdown image syntax ![NSFW](url.to/image.jpg) if something is NSFW

2. IDs besides datetime. When you edit a twt then you should preserve the datetime if location-based addressing should have any advantages over content-based addressing. If you change the timestamp the its a new post. Just like any other blog cms.

3. Caching, Yes all good ideas, but that is more a task for the clients not the serving of the twtxt.txt files.

4. Discovery: User-agent for discovery can become better. I’m working on a wrapper script in PHP, so you don’t need to go to Apaches log-files to see who fetches your feed. But for other Gemini and gopher you need to relay on something else. That could be using my webmentions for twtxt suggestion, or simply defining an email metadata field for letting a person know you follow their feed. Interesting read about why WebMetions might be a bad idea. Twtxt being much simple that a full featured IndieWeb sites, then a lot of the concerns does not apply here. But that’s the issue with any open inbox. This is hard to solve without some form of (centralized or community) spam moderation.

5. Support more protocols besides http/s. Yes why not, if we can make clients that merge or diffident between the same feed server by multiples URLs

6. Languages: If the need is big then make a separate feed. I don’t mind seeing stuff in other langues as it is low. You got translating tool if you need to know whats going on. And again when there is a need for easier switching between posting to several feeds, then it’s about building clients with a UI that makes it easy. No something that should takes up space in the format/protocol.

7. Emojis: I’m not sure what this is about. Do you want to use emojis as avatar in CLI clients or it just about rendering emojis?

Bringing developer choice to Copilot with Anthropic’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro, and OpenAI’s o1-preview
At GitHub Universe, we announced Anthropic’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro, and OpenAI’s o1-preview and o1-mini are coming to GitHub Copilot—bringing a new level of choice to every developer.

The post [Bringing developer choice to Copilot with Anthropic’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro, and OpenAI’s o1-preview](https://github.blog/news-in … ⌘ Read more

Orbbec Introduces Perceptor Dev Kit for Advanced AMR Development with NVIDIA Isaac
Orbbec unveiled the Orbbec Perceptor Developer Kit at ROSCon 2024 in Odense, Denmark, offering a comprehensive, out-of-the-box solution for autonomous mobile robot development. Developed in collaboration with NVIDIA, the OPDK is designed to streamline application development for dynamic environments, such as warehouses and factories. The OPDK integrates four Gemini 335L Depth+RGB … ⌘ Read more

Simplified twtxt - I want to suggest some dogmas or commandments for twtxt, from where we can work our way back to how to implement different feature like replies/treads:

1. It’s a text file, so you must be able to write it by hand (ie. no app logic) and read by eye. If you edit a post you change the content not the timestamp. Otherwise it will be considered a new post.

2. The order of lines in a twtxt.txt must not hold any significant. The file is a container and each line an atomic piece of information. You should be able to run sort on a twtxt.txt and it should still work.

3. Transport protocol should not matter, as long as the file served is the same. Http and https are preferred, so it is suggested that feed served via Gopher or Gemini also provide http(s).

4. Do we need more commandments?