I’m thinking of building a hardened peering protocol for Yarn.social’s yarnd: pods establish cryptographic identities, exchange signed /info and /twt payloads with signature verification, ensuring authenticity, integrity, and spoof-proof identity validation across the distributed network.

@eapl.me@eapl.me I wouldn’t call it natural, it is the way Bluesky decided to handle handles (not meaning to make a pun, or anything). There is no other way, but that.

The bottomline is, there are agreed upon “standards”, right? From example, on Yarnd you show as “eapl.me”, from “eapl.me”. A kind of weird redundancy because on twtxt, ever since I started using it, one will expect to see a “nick” (equivalent to a person’s first name), from “a domain” (like a surname).

There is nothing holding back someone from giving themselves the nick:

thisismyawesomenickforwhichiwillbeknownforeverandeveritsgreatisntit

But, do we really want that? 😅

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz OMG! You used the video capabilities of yarnd 🤣 Nice! 😊

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci two things. Conduwuit, a Matrix server written in Rust, is no longer going to be developed. The other is, I didn’t mean to tag you, but because Yarnd was broken it happened. Apologies.

@prologic@twtxt.net why not blanket closing everything older than, say, 3 months? Yarnd is quite a different beast today, right? Let’s start over!

@bender@twtxt.net You said:

as long as those working on clients can reach an agreement on how to move forward. That has proven, though, to be a pickle in the past.

I think this is because we probably need to start thinking about three different aspects to the ecosystem and document them out:

• Specifications (as they are now)
  
• Server recommendations (e.g: Timeline, yarnd, etc)
  
• Client recommendations (e.g: jenny, tt, tt2, twet, etc)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oh, and thanks for the bigger photo! I like how it lovely fill the twtxt in Yarnd. Woot!

All these remind me of the “blog” ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.

The nice thing here is that any Ui/UX rendering for a “good user experience” is similar to what yarnd does for Youtube/Spotify/whatever embedding. Plus anyone can participate, even if they don’t really have a client that understand it, it’s just text with some “syntax” afterall.

(#6kkpdda) The nice thing here is that any Ui/UX rendering for a “good user experience” is similar to what yarnd does for Youtube/Spotify/what …
The nice thing here is that any Ui/UX rendering for a “good user experience” is similar to what yarnd does for Youtube/Spotify/whatever embedding. Plus anyone can participate, even if they don’t really have a client that understand it, it’s just text with some “syntax” afterall. ⌘ Read more

💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as “client” features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

• Voting – a way to cast, collect a vote on a decision, topic or opinion.
  
• RSVP – a way to “rsvp” to a virtual (pr physical) event.
  

Both would use “plain text” on top of the way we already use Twtxt today and clients would render an appropriate UI/UX.

💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could …
💡 I had this crazy idea ( or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience ( for those that use it) and as “client” features ( not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

• Voting – a way to cast, collect a vote on a decision, topic or opinion.

• RSVP – a way to “ … ⌘ Read more

@movq@www.uninformativ.de wouldn’t editing your own twtxts cause the same issue Yarnd (or any other client) has, which is breaking any replies to it? Under which conditions would this work the best? When copying the twtxt.txt file asynchronously? In my case I copy the twtxt.txt file to its web root right away, but I figure I could not do that, which would give me a set period of time to edit without worries.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I don’t see any “fighting” here. This is just good experimentation. Unfortunately there hasn’t really been enough time or effort by other “client authors” yet, me especially as I’ve been super busy with ya’ know my “day job” that pays the bills and refactoring yarnd to use a new and shiny and much better SqliteCache 🤣 – I certainly don’t think your efforts are wasted at all. I would however like @doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt encourage you to look at the work we’ve done as a community (which was also driven out of the Yarn.social / Twtxt community years back).

(#2zhuzoa) @andros@andros I don’t see any “fighting” here. This is just good experimentation. Unfortunately there hasn’t really been e …
@andros @twtxt.andros.dev I don’t see any “fighting” here. This is just good experimentation. Unfortunately there hasn’t really been enough time or effort by other “client authors” yet, me especially as I’ve been super busy with ya’ know my “day job” that pays the bills and refactoring yarnd to use a new and shiny and … ⌘ Read more

@bender@twtxt.net You will be pleased to know that yarnd now only consumes ~60-80MB of memory depending on load 🤣 And bugger all CPU 😅

@bender@twtxt.net You will be pleased to know that yarnd now only consumes ~60-80MB of memory depending on load 🤣 And bugger all CPU 😅
@bender @twtxt.net You will be pleased to know that yarnd now only consumes ~60-80MB of memory depending on load 🤣 And bugger all CPU 😅 ⌘ Read more

Hmm, Yarnd is duplicating the rendering of /twt/5jlfuua. That’s quite odd.

I’m so confused. None of this code has changed in yarnd at all. Hmmm 🤔

(#4uctaca) I’m so confused. None of this code has changed in yarnd at all. Hmmm 🤔
I’m so confused. None of this code has changed in yarnd at all. Hmmm 🤔 ⌘ Read more

I’m thinking you may have edited. Lemme check actually… yarnd (on this branch) will now restore every version, and maybe I might have introduced a bit of a weird behavior there. One moment…

(#2znenta) I’m thinking you may have edited. Lemme check actually… yarnd (on this branch) will now restore every version, and maybe I _m …
I’m thinking you may have edited. Lemme check actually… yarnd ( on this branch) will now restore every version, and maybe I might have introduced a bit of a weird behavior there. One moment… ⌘ Read more

Just saw this user agent popping up:

yarnd/ERSION@OMMIT  go1.23.4 (+https://.../twtxt.txt; @username)

ERSION? OMMIT? 😅

(#w4mnpkq) @xuu@xuu Actually… I’m working on a new Sqlite backend/cache for yarnd 🤣 I might revive yarns (_the crawler / search …
@xuu @txt.sour.is Actually… I’m working on a new Sqlite backend/cache for yarnd 🤣 I might revive yarns ( the crawler / search engine) one day 🤞 ⌘ Read more

(#zrsxk3a) @bender@bender I never implemented it actually. That’s why we have the # refresh = metadata field for those that yell loudly en …
@bender @twtxt.net I never implemented it actually. That’s why we have the # refresh = metadata field for those that yell loudly enough can add to their feeds. Otherwise yarnd uses WebSub between pods and is fairly dumb. I could never find an “intelligent” way to back-off without hurting freshness. ⌘ Read more

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt haha its not coming back. he talked of a stand alone thing like feeds. but not in yarnd

@movq@www.uninformativ.de let’s host yarnd! Or maybe wait until @prologic@twtxt.net return activitypub support which deleted in this commit

(#xxu5i3a) @eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me Yeah yarnd already filters/ignores them (for now)
@eapl.me @eapl.me @eapl.me @eapl.me Yeah yarnd already filters/ignores them ( for now) ⌘ Read more

(#xxu5i3a) @andros@andros This is cool! 😍 Migut just have to add support for this to see how it might work in yarnd 🤣
@andros @twtxt.andros.dev This is cool! 😍 Migut just have to add support for this to see how it might work in yarnd 🤣 ⌘ Read more

(#j3xacqa) @eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me I think the general idea that we’re settling on here is that maybe we can build a simple solution …
@eapl.me @eapl.me @eapl.me @eapl.me I think the general idea that we’re settling on here is that maybe we can build a simple solution to this whole “wtf is this hash?” problem. yarnd already forms a sort-of “distributed network” amongst its pe … ⌘ Read more

(#ep5rg4q) @andros@andros Would it help if I documented the two protocols that yarnd uses today for this “distributed network”? 🧐
@andros @twtxt.andros.dev Would it help if I documented the two protocols that yarnd uses today for this “distributed network”? 🧐 ⌘ Read more

(#ep5rg4q) @andros@andros this is actually already achieved with yarnd
@andros @twtxt.andros.dev this is actually already achieved with yarnd ⌘ Read more

i rebuilt the yarnd binary several times and yet the version print is still omitting the first letter lol? wtf

For point 1 and others using the metadata tags. we have implemented them in yarnd as [lang=en][meta=data]

(#dvxmcwa) @bender@bender Ahh I noticed that too! Not yarnd making this happen 😭
@bender @twtxt.net Ahh I noticed that too! Not yarnd making this happen 😭 ⌘ Read more

(#dvxmcwa) @bender@bender What happened here with yarnd?
@bender @twtxt.net What happened here with yarnd? ⌘ Read more

@xuu Yarnd bug

(#vnr6wza) @xuu@xuu Let’s add it in and we’ll amend yarnd to partially (for now) implement the DM ext.
@xuu @txt.sour.is Let’s add it in and we’ll amend yarnd to partially (for now) implement the DM ext. ⌘ Read more

@prologic@twtxt.net All the URL are missing the protocol part (https://) and my markdown parser does not know how to handle but I see yarnd does it just fine.

(#h52tetq) @lyse@lyse @andros@andros Are we talking about yarnd here? Hmm? 🤔 I’ve thought about a “read flag” but I …
@lyse @lyse.isobeef.org @andros @twtxt.andros.dev Are we talking about yarnd here? Hmm? 🤔 I’ve thought about a “read flag” but I just haven’t bothered so far… ⌘ Read more

(#62ohn5q) @arne@arne I do 😅 Despite some opinions, I actually love HTMX and use it in many of my projects, including yarnd to giv …
@arne @uplegger.eu I do 😅 Despite some opinions, I actually love HTMX and use it in many of my projects, including yarnd to give it that nice SPA-like UX feel without all this Javascript React nonsense 😅 ⌘ Read more

(#4scqtqa) @doesnm@doesnm I don’t think this has anything to do with yarnd, but SSH keys in general 😅
@doesnm @doesnm.p.psf.lt I don’t think this has anything to do with yarnd, but SSH keys in general 😅 ⌘ Read more

Yarnd can store password-protected keys without risk because pod owner don’t have password, but looks like i/someone should enter password for every message sent or receive? Upd: oh, it’s about ssh? i have key without password lol

(#u2ycerq) @kat It most certainly was us fucking around 🤣🤣 Turns out to be a side-effect of the way the Twt Subject extension is impleme …
@kat @yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz It most certainly was us fucking around 🤣🤣 Turns out to be a side-effect of the way the Twt Subject extension is implemented in yarnd and now apparently jenny 🤣🤣 Where it strips out the subject from the displayed/rendered content. Which is what you want… But oh well hah … ⌘ Read more

(#nntyksa) @kat The twtxt files for yarnd are stored under /path/to/data under the feeds directory. Oner per user.
@kat @yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz The twtxt files for yarnd are stored under /path/to/data under the feeds directory. Oner per user. ⌘ Read more

(#ot56hla) For the record; we consider the new authority on the Twtxt spec(s) going forward (has been for some years actually) to be implement …
For the record; we consider the new authority on the Twtxt spec(s) going forward ( has been for some years actually) to be implementers / primary maintainers of widely used clients. To date that is:

• yarnd @prologic (me and others)

• jenny [@movq @www.uninformativ.de](https://twtxt.net/external?uri=https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt&nick=movq … ⌘ Read more

(#gwxefpq) text: @kat Btw, as a new pod operator, please do let me know how I can improve yarnd at all 🙏
text: @kat @yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Btw, as a new pod operator, please do let me know how I can improve yarnd at all 🙏 ⌘ Read more

Hey this could be good news for self-hosters and folks that want to run their own yarnd? 🤔 Vultr is offering 1 vCPU, 500MB Memory and 10GB …
Hey this could be good news for self-hosters and folks that want to run their own yarnd? 🤔 Vultr is offering 1 vCPU, 500MB Memory and 10GB Storage for FREE! That’s right $0.00 🤣 ⌘ Read more

(#boohdlq) Also yarnd supports video too 🤣
Also yarnd supports video too 🤣 ⌘ Read more

(#fvudyva) @doesnm No, it’s only designed for yarnd. What did you have in mind here? 🤔
@doesnm @doesnm.p.psf.lt No, it’s only designed for yarnd. What did you have in mind here? 🤔 ⌘ Read more