In-reply-to » It cooled off to 20°C today, but mid week is supposed to be crazy hot again. It was a nice walk, also plenty of people around, though. So we decided against going up our backyard mountain to avoid the masses. We finally took a path that we haven't checked out for years. That was pretty cool. I couldn't remember anything on that.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org That is one crazy looking mushroom. 😳 How about tasting it? 🤪

I’m so glad the temperatures were down a bit. Went on a long walk as well, first time in weeks. And there were so few cars yesterday! It was surprisingly quiet.

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org @bender@twtxt.net I pushed an alternative implementation to the fetch-context branch. This integrates the whole thing into mutt/jenny.

You will want to configure a new mutt hotkey, similar to the “reply” hotkey:

macro index,pager <esc>C "\
<enter-command> set my_pipe_decode=\$pipe_decode nopipe_decode<Enter>\
<pipe-message> jenny -c<Enter>\
<enter-command> set pipe_decode=\$my_pipe_decode; unset my_pipe_decode<Enter>" \
"Try to fetch context of current twt, like a missing root twt"

This pipes the mail to jenny -c. jenny will try to find the thread hash and the URL and then fetch it. (If there’s no URL or if the specific twt cannot be found in that particular feed, it could query a Yarn pod. That is not yet implemented, though.)

The whole thing looks like this:

https://movq.de/v/0d0e76a180/jenny.mp4

In other words, when there’s a missing root twt, you press a hotkey to fetch it, done.

I think I like this version better. 🤔

(This needs a lot of testing. 😆)

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In-reply-to » @prologic @falsifian This just popped up in my head: How about adding a “fetch context” feature? Point jenny to some mail file that contains a twt (or pipe it to stdin) and it will try to auto-discover and fetch all related things. Like, if it sees something like @<falsifian https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt>, then it will look in https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt for a twt with hash tkjafka. Maybe even do this recursively until there are no new references anymore. This process could include explicitly querying some user-configurable Yarn pods as well. 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, I need to clean this up in jenny. It still supports a ton of old formats that aren’t used anymore at all. 🧟

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In-reply-to » There was an outage of the Mastodon server I use this morning. A good reminder that this is a service that someone else hosts (and I don’t even pay for it). Could be gone tomorrow.

Honestly, the only thing I want to do on Mastodon is follow the #retrocomputing hashtag and sometimes post under that hashtag. That’s it. 😂

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There was an outage of the Mastodon server I use this morning. A good reminder that this is a service that someone else hosts (and I don’t even pay for it). Could be gone tomorrow.

Now that I’ve got a server to spare (the Matrix one is gone), I might look into hosting a snac instance. 🤔

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org I’ve pushed a draft into the git repo.

You can now do a “oneshot fetch” for a URL:

jenny oneshot-fetch --url https://feeds.twtxt.net/hacker-news-newest/twtxt.txt --nick hacker-news-newest

This fetches the entire feed, which might be too much. So there’s also this, which only fetches a single twt:

jenny oneshot-fetch --url https://feeds.twtxt.net/hacker-news-newest/twtxt.txt --nick hacker-news-newest --only-twt-hash r6rbinq

Let me know what you think. 🤔

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In-reply-to » @movq, that would be a nice addition. :-) I would also love the ability to hide/not show the hash when reading twtxts (after all, that's on the header on each "email"). Could that be added as a user configurable toggle?

@quark@ferengi.one It’s really only about the hash, isn’t it? 🤔 The user mention (@<quark …) should still be visible in full?

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

(The jenny code is getting a bit long and convoluted. I feel the need to refactor this quite a bit. That’s why I’m not implementing any of this right away.)

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In-reply-to » You might have seen me popping up on IRC. This is how it looks:

(Btw, I deliberately don’t join #yarn.social all the time. If I did, I suspect that a couple of development discussions would move over from twtxt to IRC. 🤪 Okay, and I often prefer slow asynchronous communication.)

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In-reply-to » @prologic @falsifian This just popped up in my head: How about adding a “fetch context” feature? Point jenny to some mail file that contains a twt (or pipe it to stdin) and it will try to auto-discover and fetch all related things. Like, if it sees something like @<falsifian https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt>, then it will look in https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt for a twt with hash tkjafka. Maybe even do this recursively until there are no new references anymore. This process could include explicitly querying some user-configurable Yarn pods as well. 🤔

Btw, it’s kind of annoying that we have two syntax options for this. 😆

It can be

(<a href="https://we.loveprivacy.club/search?tag=hash">#hash</a>) @<nick url>

or

@<nick url> (<a href="https://we.loveprivacy.club/search?tag=hash">#hash</a>)

The latter is from an earlier convention/spec. How about deprecating or even removing this?

https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/twtsubjectextension.html

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@prologic@twtxt.net @falsifian@www.falsifian.org This just popped up in my head: How about adding a “fetch context” feature? Point jenny to some mail file that contains a twt (or pipe it to stdin) and it will try to auto-discover and fetch all related things. Like, if it sees something like @<falsifian https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt>, then it will look in https://www.falsifian.org/twtxt.txt for a twt with hash tkjafka. Maybe even do this recursively until there are no new references anymore. This process could include explicitly querying some user-configurable Yarn pods as well. 🤔

It won’t always work. There’s no guarantee that tkjafka will be present in the given URL.

Hmm. 🤔

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In-reply-to » Why so many Linux distributions come with Gnome as their default desktop environment? What makes Gnome so great? It has been a resource hog, in my experience.

@bender@twtxt.net No idea, but I haven’t used GNOME since 2008. 😅 I, too, like Xfce much better. Xfce (and KDE to some degree) look and feel rather “traditional”, though. You get a standard taskbar and that’s it. Maybe that’s too oldfashioned? 🤷 I’m just speculating.

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In-reply-to » @movq, that would be a nice addition. :-) I would also love the ability to hide/not show the hash when reading twtxts (after all, that's on the header on each "email"). Could that be added as a user configurable toggle?

@quark@ferengi.one I once decided against that, didn’t I? 🤔 I don’t remember why anymore. I’ll think about it. 🤔

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Ah, I see. 🤔 Maybe I’ll add that. To be honest, I have the same “problem” regarding the slashdot feed. 😅 It’s mostly stuff that I’m not interested in – but from time to time someone replies and then I want to see what it’s about.

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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org You mean fetching the feed temporarily and then discarding all its twts again? 🤔 I don’t think there’s an easy way to do that, other than filtering in your mail client, yeah. 🤔

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In-reply-to » Just realized that phone came with a bunch of “hidden” Meta/Facebook services pre-installed and they cannot be uninstalled, so I guess me trying to “fight” WhatsApp is pointless anyway. 🤪

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com That’s good to know. 🤔 Luckily, the phone wasn’t full of 3rd party stuff. There were so few of them actually, that I didn’t really bother looking. That’s why I only found out recently about that Meta stuff.

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In-reply-to » Speaking of web server logs: Unless someone posts one of my blog posts on HackerNews (I never do that myself, don’t even have an account), my twtxt.txt file is always the most requested resource. 😂 It easily gets several thousand hits, way more than the blog’s Atom feed. 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, indeed, but still. 😂

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