@bender@twtxt.net Somehow I’m too lazy for a Mastodon client. 😂

@bender@twtxt.net Uhh, I don’t remember. 😂 I don’t think so?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de on this:

I use Mastodon similarly. I write posts in Vim until I’m happy with them. Then copy-and-paste to the browser …

You could use toot, and bypass the browser altogether.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de did you edit this twtxt? I shows fine on jenny, but in here (twtxt.net) seems to be missing a line in between the quoted text, and your reply (part of your reply is mashed with the quoted text).

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org

[…] and then manually push it to my web servers […]

Funny, I also push manually, kind of. My publish_command includes a [Y/n] question and I very often hit n, so I can keep writing a thread until it’s finished. And sometimes I delete stuff again and never publish it. 😅

I use Mastodon similarly. I write posts in Vim until I’m happy with them. Then copy-and-paste to the browser …

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m grateful for this accident. I find browsing twtxt.net useful even though I don’t have an account there. I do it when I can’t use Jenny because I only have my phone, or if I want to see messages I might have missed. I know it’s not guaranteed to catch everything, but it’s pretty good, even if it’s not intentional.

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I use Jenny to add to a local copy of my twtxt.txt file, and then manually push it to my web servers. I prefer timestamps to end with “Z” rather than “+00:00” so I modified Jenny to use that format. I mostly follow conversations using Jenny, but sometimes I check twtxt.net, which could catch twts I missed.

@prologic@twtxt.net, I don’t know if you will notice that the first line on the block below has a slight indentation:

First line.
Second line.
Third line.

I believe this, on CSS, is causing it:

pre>code {
    padding:0 .25rem;
}

@movq@www.uninformativ.de was going to say, “let them be, mate, let them be”. :-)

And that means I’m back to 50km+ per month after the summer break.

2023-10    81 km  in 20 tracks
2023-11   100 km  in 23 tracks
2023-12    76 km  in 21 tracks
2024-01    59 km  in 20 tracks
2024-02    48 km  in 12 tracks
2024-03    65 km  in 16 tracks
2024-04    55 km  in 12 tracks
2024-05    58 km  in 20 tracks
2024-06    34 km  in 19 tracks
2024-07    25 km  in  6 tracks
2024-08    18 km  in  5 tracks
2024-09    52 km  in 14 tracks
2024-10    74 km  in 17 tracks

@asquare@asquare.srht.site As far as jenny is concerned, it’ll create a thread. 😅 https://movq.de/v/207254756a/s.png

That was a nice 12km walk today. Got home just in time before all the Halloweenies got out. 😅

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net The world news? Better not do that. 🤣

So I’ve flattened my work and private email inboxes to single inbox folders and I don’t even know anymore what I was thinking before trying frantically to organise everything in sub folders. Labels and search filters are the way forward.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Good enough 😅 LMK if I can help in any way then, what I built isn’t perfect, but the crawler is able to crawl the entire space in ~15m or so (every day)

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net Oh hey! 👋

Time to catch up with the news

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org The reason I ask is that I maintain the Twtxt search engine and crawler service that basically does exactly this, so I’m curious what you’re trying to solve by doing this yourself? Not that that’s a bad idea. I just want to understand what you are trying to achieve. 🤗

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org OK fine to be more specific. The problem I have with both religion and politics is they both often influence people or groups of people to either extremes.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org I agree religion in and of itself is about as bad as politics in my view.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org This is largely by accident and not on purpose:

Lately I’ve been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org what problem does building a social graph solve?

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Just talking about regular mentions here.

i’m so glad i gave up christianity. i might be a little less glad when i get purged, but at least i won’t be doing the purging. jesus of nazareth has some chill teachings, but the whole thing is poisoned by the actual history of the religion. genocide, book burnings, and ethnic cleansing are not exactly noble teachings.

due to the gemini-centric nature of my setup, I don’t get webmentions. I just scrape the network and grep. maybe my aggregator will produce notifications at some point lol

@codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I’ve been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I’m in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They’re both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl how did you end up with a broken incomplete mention here? 🤔

Alternatively, if you prefer yarnd to pretty-print all twts nicely, even ones from simpler clients, that’s fine too and you don’t need to change anything. My ¼ -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isn’t worth overthinking.

Yeah I’ve closed the PR, I just wanted to write it up and see what we all thought. Much easier to talk to a concrete spec proposal sometimes. I realised as I was writing it too that it wasn’t really going to achieve much in practise. I think we all agree 👍

What’s wrong with my original suggestion of doing the transformation before the text hits the twtxt.txt file? @prologic, I think it would achieve what you are trying to achieve with this content-type thing: if someone writes ¼ on a yarnd instance or any other client that wants to do this, it would get transformed, and other clients simply wouldn’t do the transformation. Every client that supports displaying unicode characters, including Jenny, would then display ¼ as ¼.

So many clients do client-side transformation already, mostly in the form of @-mentions. e.g: If I @falsifian@www.falsifian.org mention you, that gets transformed into the full proper Twtxt mention syntax. We could in theory transform other things too, but I see little value in doing so? 🤔 – Also it’s probably more a “Client” recommendation anyway at that point right?

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Only that this rendering behavior comes from yarnd’s Markdown parser library that is used:

What has text/markdown got to do with this? I don’t think Markdown says anything about replacing ¼ with ¼, or other similar transformations. It’s not needed, because ¼ is already a unicode character that can simply be directly inserted into the text file.

Closed

@david@collantes.us On it! 🤣

@david@collantes.us Bahahahahaha 🤣

No apology necessary. I think it brings little to no value.

@david@collantes.us Juat buy it 🤣🧐

Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?

@david@collantes.us How much of a computer does it have to be? Would a ZimaBoard do the trick? I don’t have a wife, so I wouldn’t know any better 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Exactly. :-) My apologies for the confusion.

How about storing the contents of the twtxt.txt file in TXT DNS records? :-P Like so:

dig +short txt poem.netbros.com | sed 's/[\" ]//g' | base64 -d

So, we need a computer for house (that is, wife and I) usage. We have none, we rely on our pocket computers. I would like to fill the void with the recently announced Mac mini. What technique could I use with an already stressed out wife, to accomplish this goal? 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and for those who were as lost as me, you are referring to this @movq@www.uninformativ.de’s comment: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/4#issuecomment-18024 :-D

I’m with @movq@www.uninformativ.de here and like to avoid bolting on more alternatives. Sorry @prologic@twtxt.net.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org ah, Americans, and their backwards dates! LOL. Even using the “American” style, I will never leave out the year (it is way too bogus for me), thus 1/4/2024, or 1/4/24, which “should” format just fine.

I prefer 2024-01-04. :-)

@bender@twtxt.net I try to avoid editing. I guess I would write 5/4, 6/4, etc, and hopefully my audience would be sympathetic to my failing.

Anyway, I don’t think my eccentric decision to number my twts in the style of other social media platforms is the only context where someone might write ¼ not meaning a quarter. E.g. January 4, to Americans.

I’m happy to keep overthinking this for as long as you are :-P

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org and…

My 1/4 -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isn’t worth overthinking.

Yet, here we are still debating it. LOL.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org what happens if those four things you carefully planned to point out become six? Will you retroactively go and edit all previous twtxts to account for that change, thus breaking any potential replies/forks to them?

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl we use clients to do that, but some users may want to, or do, manually edit the twtxt.txt file.

@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net I’m not exactly asking yarnd to change. If you are okay with the way it displayed my twts, then by all means, leave it as is. I hope you won’t mind if I continue to write things like 1/4 to mean “first out of four”.

What has text/markdown got to do with this? I don’t think Markdown says anything about replacing 1/4 with ¼, or other similar transformations. It’s not needed, because ¼ is already a unicode character that can simply be directly inserted into the text file.

What’s wrong with my original suggestion of doing the transformation before the text hits the twtxt.txt file? @prologic@twtxt.net, I think it would achieve what you are trying to achieve with this content-type thing: if someone writes 1/4 on a yarnd instance or any other client that wants to do this, it would get transformed, and other clients simply wouldn’t do the transformation. Every client that supports displaying unicode characters, including Jenny, would then display ¼ as ¼.

Alternatively, if you prefer yarnd to pretty-print all twts nicely, even ones from simpler clients, that’s fine too and you don’t need to change anything. My 1/4 -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isn’t worth overthinking.

So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter@darch.dk’s Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!